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    Re: Russia lifts ban on missile deliveries to Iran, start oil-for-goods swap

    Quote Originally Posted by Higgins86 View Post
    So what does that make Western countries? We have been buying, selling and making missiles for years.
    And does our history suggest to you that we are pacifists?
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    Re: Russia lifts ban on missile deliveries to Iran, start oil-for-goods swap

    Quote Originally Posted by cpwill View Post
    In, say, a country with the intended purpose of wiping Israel off the map?
    In any country. Nations simply don't build a uranium enrichment facility underground and fail to inform the IAEA for three years if everything is aboveboard.

    To posit otherwise is absurd.

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    Re: Russia lifts ban on missile deliveries to Iran, start oil-for-goods swap

    Quote Originally Posted by cpwill View Post
    And does our history suggest to you that we are pacifists?
    No but I would say as a whole for the past 50 years or so most Western countries have not been looking for a fight for acting aggressive to its direct neighbours.
    ‘This is not peace, it is an armistice for 20 years.’ (Ferdinand Foch. After the Treaty of Versailles, 1919).

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    Re: Russia lifts ban on missile deliveries to Iran, start oil-for-goods swap

    Quote Originally Posted by Simpleχity View Post
    Certainly. To shield them from US satellite surveillance and possible US/Israel military preemption ... but mainly to hide them from the IAEA.

    The point is, if Iran's program was totally aboveboard, there would be no need for Iran to bury anything.

    There is no need to bomb nuclear reactors that only generate power, nor any need to bomb enrichment facilities that are closely monitored for NPT compliance by the IAEA .
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    Why not apply the same level of scrutiny and punishment for violations to ALL countries in the Region.

    Don't you see how the egregious hypocrisy & injustice the current Selective Enforcement diminishes America's credibility & genuine respect among all countries, not just the 1.6 Billion Muslims in the world?

    The more demanding members of P 5 (esp. the US) have no right to expect compliance or mutually beneficial Good Will from countries we rob of their economically beneficial & justified rights.

    Hostile relationships between countries are costly in blood, strategic reliance & lost trade & exchange of resources.


    Restrictions that are both forced & unjust have a short Shelf Life and dangerous consequences (i.e. The Treaty of Versailles)


    "No Justice.....No Peace" trite as it sounds is real as gravity.



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    Re: Russia lifts ban on missile deliveries to Iran, start oil-for-goods swap

    Quote Originally Posted by Simpleχity View Post
    Israel has not threatened Turkey, Egypt, Kuwait, UAE, Saudi Arabia, and Jordan who collectively have 19 nuclear power-reactors planned to come online by 2020.
    Israel is led by a man whom Sarkozy has accused of being an unbearable liar. Israel would bomb the facility, lie and say it was being used for military purposes.

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    Re: Russia lifts ban on missile deliveries to Iran, start oil-for-goods swap

    Quote Originally Posted by cpwill View Post
    In, say, a country with the intended purpose of wiping Israel off the map?
    Some Ariel Sharon

    “Even today I volunteer to do the dirty work for Israel, to kill as many Arabs as necessary, to deport them, to expel and burn them, to have everyone hate us, to pull the rug out from underneath the feet of the Diaspora Jews, so that they will be forced to run to us crying. Even if it means blowing up a few synagogues, I don’t care. And I don’t mind if after the job is done you put me in front of a Nuremberg Trial and then jail me for life. Hang me if you want, as a war criminal… What your kind doesn't understand is that the dirty work of Zionism is not finished yet, far from it.”

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    Re: Russia lifts ban on missile deliveries to Iran, start oil-for-goods swap

    Quote Originally Posted by Higgins86 View Post
    No but I would say as a whole for the past 50 years or so most Western countries have not been looking for a fight for acting aggressive to its direct neighbours.
    Whereas Iran is the worlds' largest supporter of terrorism, the creator of Hezbollah, currently engaged in destabilizing Yemen......
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    Re: Russia lifts ban on missile deliveries to Iran, start oil-for-goods swap

    Quote Originally Posted by Simpleχity View Post
    Because it would not be in Israel's best interests to simply bomb nuclear facilities where a military application is absent.

    As it was pointed out above, 19 new ME nuclear power-reactors in six different nations are coming online by 2010. Israel has not complained nor threatened to bomb any of them.
    Besides the fact that countries don't always do what's in their best interests. If Iran wanted to keep its facilities secreted from Israel, obviously they wouldn't be telling the IAEA or anybody else.
    Killing one person is murder, killing 100,000 is foreign policy

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    Re: Russia lifts ban on missile deliveries to Iran, start oil-for-goods swap

    Quote Originally Posted by Simpleχity View Post
    Can you point me to another enrichment facility which is underground in which the IAEA was not informed of and was totally unaware of its existence for three years?
    If there's any other underground facilities in Iran or anywhere else for that matter, they must be secret.
    Killing one person is murder, killing 100,000 is foreign policy

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    Re: Russia lifts ban on missile deliveries to Iran, start oil-for-goods swap

    Quote Originally Posted by Simpleχity View Post
    In any country. Nations simply don't build a uranium enrichment facility underground and fail to inform the IAEA for three years if everything is aboveboard.

    To posit otherwise is absurd.
    Actually, Iran doesn't trust Israel. And people here are still spouting that mischaracterized bull**** that Iran wants to "wipe Israel off the map" for crying out loud.
    Killing one person is murder, killing 100,000 is foreign policy

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