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    Re: Russia lifts ban on missile deliveries to Iran, start oil-for-goods swap

    Quote Originally Posted by Simpleχity View Post
    Buried underground, it doesn't really matter if Israel knows about it, so your excuse holds no water.

    Iran wasn't hiding Fordow from the Israelis. Iran was hiding it from the IAEA.

    Which is why Iran did not inform the IAEA about the hidden nuclear-enrichment facility at Fordow.
    It wasn't posted as an excuse. It was a question to you. I would think that Iran would prefer to have all operations underground, because as long as that freak in Israel is foaming at the mouth, nothing's safe. An understandable reason for Russia to deliver the MD system to them.
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    Re: Russia lifts ban on missile deliveries to Iran, start oil-for-goods swap

    Quote Originally Posted by Fearandloathing View Post
    What the **** are you on about?

    I said nothing, not one word about the suppliers or the international arms business. further its way off topic so please, go somewhere else if you want a debate on that topic. It is completely irrelevant to what I said,

    Find someone else to bother
    You implied that countries who buy missiles dont have peaceful intentions, i'm saying that countless countries acquire missiles with no intention of launching them. Buying missiles does not make you aggressive and if it did there are much more aggressive countries than Iran.

    P.S Please dont speak to me like that again, it's rude and makes you look so very small.
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    Re: Russia lifts ban on missile deliveries to Iran, start oil-for-goods swap

    Quote Originally Posted by Montecresto View Post
    It wasn't posted as an excuse. It was a question to you. I would think that Iran would prefer to have all operations underground...
    Certainly. To shield them from US satellite surveillance and possible US/Israel military preemption ... but mainly to hide them from the IAEA.

    The point is, if Iran's program was totally aboveboard, there would be no need for Iran to bury anything.

    There is no need to bomb nuclear reactors that only generate power, nor any need to bomb enrichment facilities that are closely monitored for NPT compliance by the IAEA .


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    Re: Russia lifts ban on missile deliveries to Iran, start oil-for-goods swap

    Quote Originally Posted by Simpleχity View Post
    Certainly. To shield them from US satellite surveillance and possible US/Israel military preemption ... but mainly to hide them from the IAEA.

    The point is, if Iran's program was totally aboveboard, there would be no need for Iran to bury anything.

    There is no need to bomb nuclear reactors that only generate power, nor any need to bomb enrichment facilities that are closely monitored for NPT compliance by the IAEA .
    Who makes you think that Israel would not bomb an Iranian nuclear reactor that was only generating power?

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    Re: Russia lifts ban on missile deliveries to Iran, start oil-for-goods swap

    Quote Originally Posted by Ironfist View Post
    Who makes you think that Israel would not bomb an Iranian nuclear reactor that was only generating power?
    Israel has not threatened Turkey, Egypt, Kuwait, UAE, Saudi Arabia, and Jordan who collectively have 19 nuclear power-reactors planned to come online by 2020.


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    Re: Russia lifts ban on missile deliveries to Iran, start oil-for-goods swap

    Quote Originally Posted by Simpleχity View Post
    Certainly. To shield them from US satellite surveillance and possible US/Israel military preemption ... but mainly to hide them from the IAEA.

    The point is, if Iran's program was totally aboveboard, there would be no need for Iran to bury anything.

    There is no need to bomb nuclear reactors that only generate power, nor any need to bomb enrichment facilities that are closely monitored for NPT compliance by the IAEA .
    I totally disagree. Iran's nuclear power program may not be totally aboveboard, but that it's burried underground isn't necessarily evedence of that. I am satisfied that no matter what, Netanyahu will bomb any nuclear program that Syria or Iran should ever have, and that he will never accept what the P5 or anybody else tells him to the contrary of his paranoia. And besides that, Iran never believed that they could build such underground facilities, and keep it hidden and secret from the IAEA, or anyone else, as evedenced by the very fact that you and I are discussing it. They are possibly out of reach of bombing though.
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    Re: Russia lifts ban on missile deliveries to Iran, start oil-for-goods swap

    Quote Originally Posted by Simpleχity View Post
    Israel has not threatened Turkey, Egypt, Kuwait, UAE, Saudi Arabia, and Jordan who collectively have 19 nuclear power-reactors planned to come online by 2020.
    You didn't answer his question. He asked what makes you think that Israel wouldn't bomb any IRANIAN nuclear power program?
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    Re: Russia lifts ban on missile deliveries to Iran, start oil-for-goods swap

    Quote Originally Posted by Montecresto View Post
    I totally disagree. Iran's nuclear power program may not be totally aboveboard, but that it's burried underground isn't necessarily evedence of that.
    Can you point me to another enrichment facility which is underground in which the IAEA was not informed of and was totally unaware of its existence for three years?


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    Re: Russia lifts ban on missile deliveries to Iran, start oil-for-goods swap

    Quote Originally Posted by Montecresto View Post
    You didn't answer his question. He asked what makes you think that Israel wouldn't bomb any IRANIAN nuclear power program?
    Because it would not be in Israel's best interests to simply bomb nuclear facilities where a military application is absent.

    As it was pointed out above, 19 new ME nuclear power-reactors in six different nations are coming online by 2010. Israel has not complained nor threatened to bomb any of them.


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    Re: Russia lifts ban on missile deliveries to Iran, start oil-for-goods swap

    Quote Originally Posted by Simpleχity View Post
    Can you point me to another enrichment facility which is underground in which the IAEA was not informed of and was totally unaware of its existence for three years?
    In, say, a country with the intended purpose of wiping Israel off the map?
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