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    Re: Russia lifts ban on missile deliveries to Iran, start oil-for-goods swap

    Reading the comments here are so damn funny.

    They think that Putin is poking Obama in the eye because he's just so damn weak.

    When in reality, Putin has already agreed to our terms that he wouldn't sell missiles to Iran, and as far as we know he hasn't at all. And now, rather than saying "**** obama, we're trading this", instead he says "once Iran has negotiated a deal to allow inspectors in to the country and to cooperate with everyone, we will sell them defensive systems."

    This is essentially "once Obama and them says it's ok we can start trading."

    If the deal means that Iran allows constant inspections and drastic reduction of centrifuges etc. as I've heard about this deal, I think if they agree to all of that then I don't see the harm in allowing them some air defense. It's not like Russia is selling them fighter jets. The system would hamper us a bit should we need to go in and bomb Iran but in the grand scheme of things it would be little more than a speed bump.

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    Re: Russia lifts ban on missile deliveries to Iran, start oil-for-goods swap

    Quote Originally Posted by Roadvirus View Post
    All as a result of Obama's foreign policy failures.
    ...And whether she likes it or not, Hillary is linked to those failures as surely as the tides here rise and fall with the moon.
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    Re: Russia lifts ban on missile deliveries to Iran, start oil-for-goods swap

    Quote Originally Posted by eohrnberger View Post
    Indeed. About high time that everyone puts their big boy panties on, and deals with it. That includes the electorate as well as the congress.



    I don't think that the US Government 'owns' Puerto Rico, so I don't think they can 'sell it', but that wouldn't be the same for large tracks of federally owned land out West, some of which holds reserves of exploitable resources, NG, oil, minerals, ores, and you gotta figure that some of these would have some value that could be sold.

    I wonder how much some realize that the continued spending, and the social safety nets are the largest line items in spending growing, at risk of being forced to sell off all the national parks and similar. Hell of a future predicament we are leaving our future generations. Be not proud.


    Those large tracts of land are unlikely to yield even the interest on 24 trillion which will be the debt load when Obama leaves IF they don't spend more.

    The continued spending is the issue and the only way that the cancer can be stopped. Proven time and again in a Europe that refuses to learn to, like Greece, Italy and Spain now living on the largess of their neighbors.

    Once again what you have is not a 'social safety net" at all, as more than half recipients do not need it based on any "poverty" scale I have ever seen. This is lifetime welfare for the employed who also want 50" screens and a "right" to the same clothes as anyone else. We are considered by Americans to be "socialist" but no one gets food stamps, no one working anyway. If your income is low your medical plan is free, if not and your income is high you will pay around $120 a month. If your income is low your meds are paid for, if high not.

    I learned this lesson in business: anyone can find 5% in savings anytime. A simple deep audit and an across the board cut of 10% would eliminate the waste, another 30% will scrub it. All departments, all staff.

    You'll hear a lot of whining but amazingly you won't see much affect.


    From what I see you have people driving new SUV's collecting food stamps.
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    Re: Russia lifts ban on missile deliveries to Iran, start oil-for-goods swap

    Quote Originally Posted by solletica View Post
    The only one who gets to decide if Israel attacks Iran is Netanyahu, and Netanyahu doesn't have to listen to the Mossad or anyone else.

    Netanyahu is a proven warmonger who is known to always prefer bombs and military force to ensure Israel's military hegemony in the ME.

    Therefore, the only reason he won't attack is because Iran has an effective military deterrent to the kinds of attacks Israel can mount.

    That's one of the most honest & accurate assessments of Netanyahu I've read. I hope & assume, however, that there is someone or some group of people in the Israeli government that acts as a check to such a monumental decision but given the unfettered murderous history of atrocities under Netanyahu's extremist Regime......who knows.

    IDF's thrashing via Hezbollah's superior fighters & Assymetric warfare is certainly the reason Israel hasn't made another recent grab for the Litani River basin etc.

    I really don't know to what extent the S-300s & other Iranian, defensive systems are effectively operational but doubt that they are adequate for an unlikely Full Scale US & Israeli assault. I hope you are right though. The S-300s may well be adequate for a manned aircraft assault.

    Israel's assault on Iran & the rest of the Islamic Region now, is built into their more comprehensive & quiet, Regional, Oded Yinon Plan:

    “The Yinon Plan and the role of the ISIS”
    The Yinon Plan and the role of the ISIS | The Daily Star

    EXCERPT "This is the Yinon Plan at work, which aims at the balkanisation of the Middle East and North Africa (MENA) Region into smaller and weaker entities or states in order to ensure the dominant position of Israel in the region and the control of its oil, gas and water resources by the US-Israel nexus."CONTINUED

    Israel's Right Wing & their US Ziono-Cons are obsessed with & frantic to trash any successful Nuclear Negotiations with Iran, so.....again, who knows.

    Many thanks

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    Re: Russia lifts ban on missile deliveries to Iran, start oil-for-goods swap

    Quote Originally Posted by B'smith View Post
    ....

    Israel's assault on Iran & the rest of the Islamic Region now, is built into their more comprehensive & quiet, Regional, Oded Yinon Plan:

    “The Yinon Plan and the role of the ISIS”
    The Yinon Plan and the role of the ISIS | The Daily Star

    EXCERPT "This is the Yinon Plan at work, which aims at the balkanisation of the Middle East and North Africa (MENA) Region into smaller and weaker entities or states in order to ensure the dominant position of Israel in the region and the control of its oil, gas and water resources by the US-Israel nexus."CONTINUED

    Israel's Right Wing & their US Ziono-Cons
    are obsessed with & frantic to trash any successful Nuclear Negotiations with Iran, so.....again, who knows...
    More Garbage 'anti-Israel' Conspiracism by B'smith.
    Posted in Lebanon's 'Daily Star', whose muslim author uses (SAW) after referring to prophet Mohammed.

    Of course, aside from a theoretical 1982 essay by Yinon, there's NOTHING linking the current M-E turmoil to Israel and some great plan to "Balkanize the Arabs", who were already and Improperly "Balkanized" after the fall of the Ottoman Empire, and well BEFORE Yinon/1982 or Israel.
    "ISIS" no less!

    In FACT, the USA, due to it's deference to Turkey (and other screwy ideas) has Persistently PREVENTED Iraq's break-up into more rational states!
    As Always, the OPPOSITE of what you allege.

    Sure, phony 'palestinians' (and WTF is a 'Jordanian') deserve a state, but not a true Ethnicity/Lingual group/race Kurds?
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    Re: Russia lifts ban on missile deliveries to Iran, start oil-for-goods swap

    Quote Originally Posted by Fearandloathing View Post
    Those large tracts of land are unlikely to yield even the interest on 24 trillion which will be the debt load when Obama leaves IF they don't spend more.
    Yeah I suppose you're right on that.

    Quote Originally Posted by Fearandloathing View Post
    The continued spending is the issue and the only way that the cancer can be stopped. Proven time and again in a Europe that refuses to learn to, like Greece, Italy and Spain now living on the largess of their neighbors.
    Yep.

    Quote Originally Posted by Fearandloathing View Post
    Once again what you have is not a 'social safety net" at all, as more than half recipients do not need it based on any "poverty" scale I have ever seen. This is lifetime welfare for the employed who also want 50" screens and a "right" to the same clothes as anyone else. We are considered by Americans to be "socialist" but no one gets food stamps, no one working anyway. If your income is low your medical plan is free, if not and your income is high you will pay around $120 a month. If your income is low your meds are paid for, if high not.

    I learned this lesson in business: anyone can find 5% in savings anytime. A simple deep audit and an across the board cut of 10% would eliminate the waste, another 30% will scrub it. All departments, all staff.

    You'll hear a lot of whining but amazingly you won't see much affect.


    From what I see you have people driving new SUV's collecting food stamps.
    That's for sure, and that's by far the largest part of the annual government budget, from what I understand.

    UNCLE SAM is being bilked, big-time. Losses from health-care scams alone are between $70 billion and $240 billion a year, reckons the FBI. An ever higher percentage of frauds (false claims for welfare payments, tax refunds and so on) are being perpetrated with stolen identities. Some 12.6m people—one every three seconds—fell victim to identity theft in the United States in 2012, according to Javelin Strategy and Research. The problem only grows as benefit programmes strive for efficiency and convenience, shifting applications online and making payments to prepaid debit cards, which can be bought in shops, require no bank account and allow money to be laundered quickly and easily. The self-proclaimed first lady of tax-refund fraud is Rashia Wilson (posing with the loot on her Facebook page, above) who, along with her eager associates, claimed bogus rebates of more than $11m.



    Stealing from the government: SIRF



    6 charts that show the Welfare State run amok - AEI | Pethokoukis Blog » AEIdeas

    And what did ObamaCare do? Expand Medicare coverage? Yeah, like that's the responsible direction for all this.
    Nancy Pelosi said: “We have to pass it, to find out what’s in it.” A Doctor called to a radio show & said: "That's the definition of a stool sample"
    It's a global Jihad, stupid. Allowing that poison into the country is only going to increase the damage it inflicts on others.

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    Re: Russia lifts ban on missile deliveries to Iran, start oil-for-goods swap

    Quote Originally Posted by eohrnberger View Post
    Yeah I suppose you're right on that.



    Yep.



    That's for sure, and that's by far the largest part of the annual government budget, from what I understand.

    Stealing from the government: SIRF

    6 charts that show the Welfare State run amok - AEI | Pethokoukis Blog » AEIdeas

    And what did ObamaCare do? Expand Medicare coverage? Yeah, like that's the responsible direction for all this.

    To me the most astonishing and frightening is the second to the last chart.

    44.4 % of the work force on taxpayer's money.

    I doubt it's ever been here in "socialist Canada". This is the result of one very corrupt system of vote buying and padded bills. I am at a loss for words, 4 in ten families totally dependent on the public cash flow. No wonder you have to tax health care
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    Re: Russia lifts ban on missile deliveries to Iran, start oil-for-goods swap

    Quote Originally Posted by Fearandloathing View Post
    To me the most astonishing and frightening is the second to the last chart.

    44.4 % of the work force on taxpayer's money.

    I doubt it's ever been here in "socialist Canada". This is the result of one very corrupt system of vote buying and padded bills. I am at a loss for words, 4 in ten families totally dependent on the public cash flow. No wonder you have to tax health care
    Yup, and there's sill some who keep saying that it's not a problem, and that the fed can print up yet more money, and the Fed gov can just continue to borrow more money. Bzzzz. That's the wrong answer.
    Nancy Pelosi said: “We have to pass it, to find out what’s in it.” A Doctor called to a radio show & said: "That's the definition of a stool sample"
    It's a global Jihad, stupid. Allowing that poison into the country is only going to increase the damage it inflicts on others.

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    Re: Russia lifts ban on missile deliveries to Iran, start oil-for-goods swap

    Quote Originally Posted by eohrnberger View Post
    Yup, and there's sill some who keep saying that it's not a problem, and that the fed can print up yet more money, and the Fed gov can just continue to borrow more money. Bzzzz. That's the wrong answer.
    I am all in favor of the fed printing as much money as the presses will handle, hell they can borrow Canada's. every dollar they print makes my dollar worth a little bit more especially when buying American assets, and every dollar they print makes the cost of our goods, like oil, hydro electricity, cars etc. goes up.

    yeah, please can you get on that? This is hopefully going to be a long retirement and I want to go out in style
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    Re: Russia lifts ban on missile deliveries to Iran, start oil-for-goods swap

    Quote Originally Posted by Fearandloathing View Post
    I am all in favor of the fed printing as much money as the presses will handle, hell they can borrow Canada's. every dollar they print makes my dollar worth a little bit more especially when buying American assets, and every dollar they print makes the cost of our goods, like oil, hydro electricity, cars etc. goes up.

    yeah, please can you get on that? This is hopefully going to be a long retirement and I want to go out in style
    Meh. Me not so much.
    Nancy Pelosi said: “We have to pass it, to find out what’s in it.” A Doctor called to a radio show & said: "That's the definition of a stool sample"
    It's a global Jihad, stupid. Allowing that poison into the country is only going to increase the damage it inflicts on others.

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