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    Re: Russia lifts ban on missile deliveries to Iran, start oil-for-goods swap

    Quote Originally Posted by joG View Post
    This is where I see maybe the most difficult point for an eventual deal. The IAEA must be allowed to roam freely and have access to all documents to be able to report believably. Iran has thusfar not only prevented even modestly honest inspection, it has never been at all hones, as far as we know.
    This is impossible. You think Iran can be expected to allow inspections of every military facility? The IAEA will have access to the locations agreed to with the P5+1.
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    Re: Russia lifts ban on missile deliveries to Iran, start oil-for-goods swap

    Quote Originally Posted by Ironfist View Post
    Would Israel let the IAEA wander freely in that way? In case you don't know, the answer is no.
    - Israel did not sign the contract.
    - If the Security Council ordered them to and general and robust sanctions were imposed?

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    Re: Russia lifts ban on missile deliveries to Iran, start oil-for-goods swap

    Quote Originally Posted by joG View Post
    - Israel did not sign the contract.
    - If the Security Council ordered them to and general and robust sanctions were imposed?
    That's right, if that were the case Israel would not do it. It is ridiculous to think otherwise.

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    Re: Russia lifts ban on missile deliveries to Iran, start oil-for-goods swap

    Quote Originally Posted by Ironfist View Post
    That's right, if that were the case Israel would not do it. It is ridiculous to think otherwise.
    I am not sure I know, what you mean. You do not believe that Israel would act like the US or Germany and let inspectors in?

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    Re: Russia lifts ban on missile deliveries to Iran, start oil-for-goods swap

    Quote Originally Posted by joG View Post
    I am not sure I know, what you mean. You do not believe that Israel would act like the US or Germany and let inspectors in?
    The issue is not letting inspectors in. The issue is giving inspectors access to EVERYTHING. No sovereign country would do that. It would be stupid to expose yourself in that way. Unless your choice was utter destruction.

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    Re: Russia lifts ban on missile deliveries to Iran, start oil-for-goods swap

    Quote Originally Posted by Simpleχity View Post
    Hi there MMC. What he's been saying since he rolled into Crimea ... eff off.


    Maybe. Iran will have a highly sophisticated missile system to protect its nuclear infrastructure and a weapons daddy on the UNSC to help it out there also.
    This isn't about helping Iran or Russia. This is a calculated move by Putin to throw something else in Obama's face. Putin is making a mockery out of Obama. We need a President that has the sack to stand up to Putin. Until then, Putin will prep for WWIII while the US cuts 500 billion from the defense budget cuts.

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    Re: Russia lifts ban on missile deliveries to Iran, start oil-for-goods swap

    Quote Originally Posted by Ironfist View Post
    The issue is not letting inspectors in. The issue is giving inspectors access to EVERYTHING. No sovereign country would do that. It would be stupid to expose yourself in that way. Unless your choice was utter destruction.
    Why would it be stupid? It was stupid to do the things that made the IAEA inspectors suspicious in the first place and caused the sanctions to be tightened to today's level. That was stupid and has destroyed any sane persons trust in anything the Iranian regime says.

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    Re: Russia lifts ban on missile deliveries to Iran, start oil-for-goods swap

    Quote Originally Posted by Montecresto View Post
    This is impossible. You think Iran can be expected to allow inspections of every military facility? The IAEA will have access to the locations agreed to with the P5+1.
    then the deal is pointless.
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    Re: Russia lifts ban on missile deliveries to Iran, start oil-for-goods swap

    Quote Originally Posted by cpwill View Post
    then the deal is pointless.
    Because your "point" is the complete overthrow of the Iranian regime. These negotiations are about nuclear proliferation not regime change.

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    Re: Russia lifts ban on missile deliveries to Iran, start oil-for-goods swap

    Quote Originally Posted by iguanaman View Post
    Because your "point" is the complete overthrow of the Iranian regime. These negotiations are about nuclear proliferation not regime change.
    Oh hey look - A Strawman!
    “In America we have a two-party system,” a Republican congressional staffer told a visiting group of Russian legislators. “There is the stupid party. And there is the evil party. I am proud to be a member of the stupid party. Periodically, the two parties get together and do something that is both stupid and evil. This is called: bipartisanship."

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