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    Re: Boston cop shot in the face

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    Officers are paid for keeping our society safe, first of all. If there is a chance they can be damaged, especially on duty, it is their right to use force against criminals.
    I am not saying 'black people = criminals', yet for some reason crime rates among Afro-Americans are substantially higher.
    Criminal damages the society while officer is protecting it. Based on this you can say their lives are valued differently.
    Yes you are saying blacks equals criminals - Dress it up what ever way you wish, but the intent is clear.
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    Re: Boston cop shot in the face

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    In 2007 3 out of 4 cops were whites. At the same time 39.4% of prison population is black. So why do you think these facts are mentioned in the very beginning of the article? Maybe to show this situation is pretty normal in the present day United States?
    What facts aside from a statement.
    Wheres the beef?
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    Re: Boston cop shot in the face

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    It is not "for some reason", it is for alot of reasons that crime rate among blacks is much higher. And the solution is not assuming every black is a criminal.
    Wouldn't / shouldn't the real solution be that black crime rates approach approximately what they are for the rest of the population?

    Then the police wouldn't need to have the suspicions that seem to be warranted, based on their experiences in first person on the matter.
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    Re: Boston cop shot in the face

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    Decorated Boston police officer shot in the face - CNN.com

    This time it is hard to blame officers for being brutal. Maybe it is time to accept there is a reason behind police brutality except for deprived and immoral nature of American policemen (according to liberals). How many cases could have ended like this if officer didn't follow the instruction and shoot the suspect? I bet potential criminals' lives are less valuable than lives of law-abiding cops. Not all of them are good but attacking American police in general is a sign of anti-governmental propaganda.
    Nope...not hard at all to blame the officer. Hands Up Boston did just that. In fact...they coordinated protests and held planning meetings to blame the cops for killing the black man. Of course...those planning meetings were 'colored people only'.

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    Re: Boston cop shot in the face

    Let me start off by saying as a Black man, I'm just as appalled over this senseless shooting of an innocent police officer just out doing his job as I am about innocent Black men being needlessly gunned down by police officers who use poor judgment. Moreover, I hold the same regard for anyone who loses their life needlessly when such loss of life could have been avoided.

    I don't like how the thread's originator felt compelled to start this thread not as a means to inform, but rather as a way to "stir the racial pot" and make blanket aspersions against those who may be of a different race or have different political views than he. I can deal with debating the issues; what I've grown tired of is the race baiting because all this does is spur hate.

    As to the OP itself, the victim in this case deserved to get shot. The officer(s) were 1000% justified in using lethal force. No doubt about it! But to use such a tragic event as a "gotcha moment" - as if some sort of racial, justifiable "payback" for White people was in order...sad. It's as if some folks want to start a race war.

    I'll say what some folks won't: Police officers are the keepers of good order and discipline within every community throughout this country. They deserve to be respected and their authority adhered to. I'm probably one of the exceptions rather than the rule because in those rare instances where I have been pulled over by the police, I don't do anything to give them reason to do anything more or go any further than is necessary for them to do their job - which in most cases is assess the situation as to why they pulled me over (routine traffic violation), an ID search (clean record here - no outstanding warrants of any kind), issue me a warning or traffic ticket and be on their way. (And for those White folks who still think themselves racially superior, if you want to say "that's being a good nigger" go for it. But you'd be hypocrites since obeying the police and obeying the law is what you want Black people to do. Moreover, isn't that what all of us should be doing anyway? Think about it...)

    Now, don't get me wrong. I DO have a problem with police officers who abuse their position of authority, who DO get over-zealous in ensuring good order and discipline in a civil society is maintained. I DO get pissed when I learn that a Black man has been unjustly pulled over simple for "driving while Black". (And for those who don't know what that means, it's when a Black man is driving a nice looking vehicle which the police officer assumes he can't afford and, thus, presumes that the only way he could afford such a vehicle is if he was selling drugs or stole it.) I DO have a problem with Black people being racially profiled. However, I DO believe that there are some instances where we, as Black people, bring trouble unto ourselves, i.e., driving without a valid driver's license, having outstanding warrants or just being uncooperative with police. None of those things places any person least of all a Black person in a good light with local police. However, neither does being purposely singled out because of the color of your skin engender Blacks towards police. All that does is add to the air of mistrust by the Black community to law enforcement. (Nevermind the disparity in arrests and subsequent sentencing of Blacks for the same crimes committed by our White counterparts.)

    I think changes in prevailing attitudes need to change on all sides, between Blacks and cops, cops and Blacks, and Blacks and Whites. But originating a thread in the manner this one begins does nothing to change attitudes. This only proves to make things worse.

    I'm happy to know that the officer is recovering from his wounds. I'm sadden that some people feel the need to widen the racial divide by eluding to all Black people as being criminals or thug-like or making the nation's first Black President culpable for the bad behavior of a few (Black people).

    Shameful...
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    Re: Boston cop shot in the face

    Quote Originally Posted by VanceMack View Post
    Nope...not hard at all to blame the officer. Hands Up Boston did just that. In fact...they coordinated protests and held planning meetings to blame the cops for killing the black man. Of course...those planning meetings were 'colored people only'.

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    Well, don't you think that's the reason the video was released? To show the Black community in Boston that the shooting and subsequent death of this Black man in particular was justified? I certainly think so.
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    Re: Boston cop shot in the face

    Quote Originally Posted by Schwartz View Post
    In 2007 3 out of 4 cops were whites. At the same time 39.4% of prison population is black. So why do you think these facts are mentioned in the very beginning of the article? Maybe to show this situation is pretty normal in the present day United States?
    I want you to think about those figures for a moment...think long and hard about them.

    3 out of 4 cops are White. That means that the Black community is "policed" more often by White cops than Black cops. Hold onto that revelation for a second...we'll come back to it in a moment.

    39.4% of the prison population is Black. That would mean that 60.6% of prisoners are White...maybe. Keep that factoid in the forefront of your mind as well.

    You posted the following just prior to posting the above statistics:

    Quote Originally Posted by Schwartz View Post
    Officers are paid for keeping our society safe, first of all. If there is a chance they can be damaged, especially on duty, it is their right to use force against criminals.

    I am not saying 'black people = criminals', yet for some reason crime rates among Afro-Americans are substantially higher.
    Criminals damages the society while officer is protecting it. Based on this you can say their lives are valued differently.
    If criminals damage society, shouldn't your focus be on those of your own race? Recall that 39.4% Black prison population statistic you quoted. Seems the folks who are causing the biggest problems for society aren't Black folks. Unless, of course, you can show comparative statistics across all racial demographics AND illustrate that the majority of those crimes committed by Black prison inmates were violent and heinous. Otherwise, your blanket stats holds no merit.

    As for the disparity in the racial makeup of cops out on the beat, it stands to reason that if White cops are the only cops Black people face and these cops enter into "stop and frisk" encounters with a bias from the jump, does it not make sense to you that Black people would inherently mistrust White law enforcement? I'm not saying that the answer in and of itself is to hire more Black cops, but it certainly would go a loooooooooong way towards bridging the trust gap within Black communities.
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    Re: Boston cop shot in the face

    Quote Originally Posted by Objective Voice View Post
    Well, don't you think that's the reason the video was released? To show the Black community in Boston that the shooting and subsequent death of this Black man in particular was justified? I certainly think so.
    They knew it. It didn't make a difference. Just another opportunity to bang the drum of oppression.

    Why does the phrase 'black lives matter' exist? CLEARLY they don't matter. The only black lives that matter are the ones that die at the hands of cops. That's ridiculously exploitative. But that's not an exclusive club of folk. There are people that come out in droves following a school shooting. Cuz children's lives matter...right? Nah. Cute little pink chirruns matter because they can be exploited in the anti-gun cause.

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    Re: Boston cop shot in the face

    Quote Originally Posted by Objective Voice View Post
    Let me start off by saying as a Black man, I'm just as appalled over this senseless shooting of an innocent police officer just out doing his job as I am about innocent Black men being needlessly gunned down by police officers who use poor judgment. Moreover, I hold the same regard for anyone who loses their life needlessly when such loss of life could have been avoided.

    I don't like how the thread's originator felt compelled to start this thread not as a means to inform, but rather as a way to "stir the racial pot" and make blanket aspersions against those who may be of a different race or have different political views than he. I can deal with debating the issues; what I've grown tired of is the race baiting because all this does is spur hate.

    As to the OP itself, the victim in this case deserved to get shot. The officer(s) were 1000% justified in using lethal force. No doubt about it! But to use such a tragic event as a "gotcha moment" - as if some sort of racial, justifiable "payback" for White people was in order...sad. It's as if some folks want to start a race war.

    I'll say what some folks won't: Police officers are the keepers of good order and discipline within every community throughout this country. They deserve to be respected and their authority adhered to. I'm probably one of the exceptions rather than the rule because in those rare instances where I have been pulled over by the police, I don't do anything to give them reason to do anything more or go any further than is necessary for them to do their job - which in most cases is assess the situation as to why they pulled me over (routine traffic violation), an ID search (clean record here - no outstanding warrants of any kind), issue me a warning or traffic ticket and be on their way. (And for those White folks who still think themselves racially superior, if you want to say "that's being a good nigger" go for it. But you'd be hypocrites since obeying the police and obeying the law is what you want Black people to do. Moreover, isn't that what all of us should be doing anyway? Think about it...)

    Now, don't get me wrong. I DO have a problem with police officers who abuse their position of authority, who DO get over-zealous in ensuring good order and discipline in a civil society is maintained. I DO get pissed when I learn that a Black man has been unjustly pulled over simple for "driving while Black". (And for those who don't know what that means, it's when a Black man is driving a nice looking vehicle which the police officer assumes he can't afford and, thus, presumes that the only way he could afford such a vehicle is if he was selling drugs or stole it.) I DO have a problem with Black people being racially profiled. However, I DO believe that there are some instances where we, as Black people, bring trouble unto ourselves, i.e., driving without a valid driver's license, having outstanding warrants or just being uncooperative with police. None of those things places any person least of all a Black person in a good light with local police. However, neither does being purposely singled out because of the color of your skin engender Blacks towards police. All that does is add to the air of mistrust by the Black community to law enforcement. (Nevermind the disparity in arrests and subsequent sentencing of Blacks for the same crimes committed by our White counterparts.)

    I think changes in prevailing attitudes need to change on all sides, between Blacks and cops, cops and Blacks, and Blacks and Whites. But originating a thread in the manner this one begins does nothing to change attitudes. This only proves to make things worse.

    I'm happy to know that the officer is recovering from his wounds. I'm sadden that some people feel the need to widen the racial divide by eluding to all Black people as being criminals or thug-like or making the nation's first Black President culpable for the bad behavior of a few (Black people).

    Shameful...
    Thank you for your valid and deep post sir.

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    Re: Boston cop shot in the face

    Quote Originally Posted by Redress View Post
    It is not "for some reason", it is for alot of reasons that crime rate among blacks is much higher. And the solution is not assuming every black is a criminal.
    OK, the next time I talk to you I will show the sarcasm banner.
    Then why cannot we talk about black population problems with the police openly? There are two opposite positions and everything that is between is not acceptable because it is either too conservative or too liberal. Think of Afro-Americans as a group of risk. We all know about the problems they have to face daily but it is blacks' duty to change their own image.

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