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    Re: Texas Bill Would Make Recording Police Illegal

    Personally, I support the rights of individuals to video any public official in the performance of their duties, whatever they may be. As long as the individual does not interfere with those duties nor incites others to interfere in those duties, no harm is done and often great benefit can accrue. The case in South Carolina is a case in point. Without the citizen video, the dishonest actions of the officer would never have come to light or be believed. While the officer's dash cam shows how the incident originated and how the dead victim bolted from his car and ran away, it does not show the end result. If only the dash cam was available, the officer would have a good case and ability to rationalize his actions. I don't know the rules of engagement in all jurisdictions, but in many a fleeing suspect may be brought down with force. If not for the citizen's video, we wouldn't know that the officer tried to plant evidence -placing his taser beside the body of the victim - and his story may have been believed.
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    Re: Texas Bill Would Make Recording Police Illegal

    Quote Originally Posted by beefheart View Post
    Was the SC shooting filmed from more than 25 feet?
    He was a block away.
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    Re: Texas Bill Would Make Recording Police Illegal

    Quote Originally Posted by Fenton View Post
    Yes. Its OBVIOUSLY more than 25 ft.
    Perhaps in this case, but there are already laws that prevent interfering with police, so why do we need another law for the same thing?

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    Re: Texas Bill Would Make Recording Police Illegal

    Seems like a legitimate reason to flee or run from the police.

    If someone is recording from over 25 feet away and the police begin to approach them(person filming), wouldn't that person be adhering to the law by fleeing or "keeping their distance" ?

    Seems like a catch 22.

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    Re: Texas Bill Would Make Recording Police Illegal

    I don't think it matters how far away the SC shooting was filmed. There have been plenty of instances of police brutality/murder filmed at less than 25 feet. To imply this doesn't hinder our ability to hold police accountable is absurd. Not to mention that police WILL abuse this law and harass people more than 25 feet away. The officer's word usually wins in court. If somebody is interfering with their ability to do their job that is one thing, but simply recording their activity would not do that. If they're so afraid of being recorded maybe they should start following the law.

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    How can one record wrongdoing within ones own home? Why cant citizens police the police?
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    Re: Texas Bill Would Make Recording Police Illegal

    Quote Originally Posted by Fenton View Post
    Yes. Its OBVIOUSLY more than 25 ft.
    I was asking because I wasn't sure, didn't see any discussion of the length.

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    Re: Texas Bill Would Make Recording Police Illegal

    Quote Originally Posted by Fenton View Post
    25 feet buffer is all it is.

    nuff' said.
    Unless you're carrying a gun, then it's 100 feet.

    And that means you can't record your own interaction with police, any traffic stop, any incident in a very crowded room or small room. If you're with a group, all it takes is an officer coming toward you to justify him seizing all recording devices (e.g. your phone) or you face arrest and 6 months in jail, a year if you're carrying a gun. If your wife is being interrogated, best make sure and pace off 10 yards, so you can record it, and then hope the cop doesn't take 3 steps in your direction then seize your phone AND arrest you for interfering with his duties, which is presumed if he walks into that 25 foot circle. And of course these rules only apply if you have your phone, presumably recording - if not, get as close as you like.

    It's a terrible law and it's illustrative who supports this kind of nonsense.

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    Re: Texas Bill Would Make Recording Police Illegal

    I can see how American citizens carrying cameras is rubbing law enforcement a rash.
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    Re: Texas Bill Would Make Recording Police Illegal

    Quote Originally Posted by Gaius46 View Post
    If the drafters of the bill were worried about interference with police performing their duties the bill would call for a 25' perimeter excluding ALL people, not just those with a camera.

    The bill doesn't contain an exception for persons being investigated by the officer so presumably a motorist stopped by the police could not legally videotape the encounter under this law.



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    This is an attempt to silence the citizens who see cops acting inappropriately, pure and simple. It's already illegal to interfere with them doing their duty.
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