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    Re: Texas Bill Would Make Recording Police Illegal

    Quote Originally Posted by AlbqOwl View Post
    Requiring camera happy spectators to keep their distance is not only reasonable, but is imperative for the safety of the police officer and sometimes those he is questioning or arresting or giving a ticket to or whatever. In especially highly charged situations like the fight following the hockey game etc., the policeman often has multiple issues in progress and doesn't need to worry about who is crowding around him. It isn't much different than the police order to 'Move along, there's nothing to see here" kind of order to disperse a crowd that detracts from a police investigation.
    But it is fundamentally different because it singles out those recording the event (e.g. a cell phone with the camera or microphone on) versus everyone else (e.g. someone with a cell phone out, but the camera OFF). The law being amended already prohibits interfering with a police officer doing his duty. This adds a presumption that anyone RECORDING WITH A CAMERA/MIC within 25 feet IS interfering, and those without cameras would be held to a different standard. There is no way I know of to justify that. Besides, if you're legally carrying a weapon, the line is 100 feet IF YOU HAVE A CAMERA TURNED ON, but if not you can presumably be carrying and get as close as you want so long as you don't run afoul of the general prohibition against police interference.

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    You can record anyone and anything you want in public space.
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    Re: Texas Bill Would Make Recording Police Illegal

    Quote Originally Posted by Excon View Post
    This topic was already made and discussed.

    http://www.debatepolitics.com/law-an...amendment.html

    It does not make recording police illegal.
    It makes certain types of recordings illegal.
    Correct. It would be illegal to record any interaction with police if you're the suspect, and all traffic stops, since those would all occur within the prohibited zone. If would prevent recording at all in a crowd, in a small room or house, would prohibit recording the police approaching any small group - within 25 ft police could legally demand all recording devices be turned off or face arrest and the phones seized. The potential for abuse is immense and for no purpose because the law it amends already prohibits interfering with police. It's a naked attempt to limit what can be captured on audio or video. No surprise it was pushed by police groups. Accountability is a bitch.

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    Re: Texas Bill Would Make Recording Police Illegal

    Quote Originally Posted by AlbqOwl View Post
    Requiring camera happy spectators to keep their distance is not only reasonable, but is imperative for the safety of the police officer and sometimes those he is questioning or arresting or giving a ticket to or whatever. In especially highly charged situations like the fight following the hockey game etc., the policeman often has multiple issues in progress and doesn't need to worry about who is crowding around him. It isn't much different than the police order to 'Move along, there's nothing to see here" kind of order to disperse a crowd that detracts from a police investigation.
    Interfering with police duties is already illegal. They already have the law necessary to protect against this.
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    What is funny is the old argument that authoritarians use: "Well, if you aren't doing anything wrong...then you have nothing to worry about"

    Sounds like cops worry about getting caught doing something wrong.
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    Re: Texas Bill Would Make Recording Police Illegal

    Quote Originally Posted by BrewerBob View Post
    Within 25 feet.

    I am a strong supporter in the public's right to record police officers. But I also don't have a problem with giving the officers a buffer zone to do their work. Reasonable people can certainly disagree on what that distance should be.
    Sounds about right. Give them room to do their thing and use zoom if you must. I don't get gawking at all, no matter how close or far.

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    Re: Texas Bill Would Make Recording Police Illegal

    Nah - no such law is needed. As was already said interfering with police is already illegal. I would actually go the other way and put out a law that provides a minimal set of protections for those filming law enforcement.
    I think if Thomas Jefferson were looking down, the author of the Bill of Rights, on whats being proposed here, hed agree with it. He would agree that the First Amendment cannot be absolute. - Chuck Schumer (D). Yet, Madison and Mason wrote the Bill of Rights, according to Sheila Jackson Lee, 400 years ago. Yup, it's a fact.


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    Re: Texas Bill Would Make Recording Police Illegal

    Quote Originally Posted by Lovebug View Post
    Sounds about right. Give them room to do their thing and use zoom if you must. I don't get gawking at all, no matter how close or far.
    Was the SC shooting filmed from more than 25 feet?
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    Re: Texas Bill Would Make Recording Police Illegal

    Quote Originally Posted by beefheart View Post
    Texas.....nuff' said.

    25 feet buffer is all it is.

    nuff' said.

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    Re: Texas Bill Would Make Recording Police Illegal

    Quote Originally Posted by beefheart View Post
    Was the SC shooting filmed from more than 25 feet?
    Yes. Its OBVIOUSLY more than 25 ft.

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