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    Re: Texas Bill Would Make Recording Police Illegal

    Quote Originally Posted by Gaius46 View Post
    Are people with camera truly interfering with policing or are they threatening to policing?
    Yeah, they are interfering with their ability to murder U.S citizens.

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    Re: Texas Bill Would Make Recording Police Illegal

    Quote Originally Posted by BrewerBob View Post
    Within 25 feet.

    I am a strong supporter in the public's right to record police officers. But I also don't have a problem with giving the officers a buffer zone to do their work. Reasonable people can certainly disagree on what that distance should be.
    my problem with giving them a specified buffer zone (any specified buffer zone) is that it then becomes a question of measuring the distance to prove guilt or innocence. also, a cop doesn't even need to charge someone with a crime in order to abuse the law. they can just start telling everyone to get back and that their filming is illegal, or use the opportunity to confiscate a camera before a person has had a chance to put the specified distance between themselves and an officer. also if you're in a small room this would essentially make filming the officer illegal, or if you were stopped at a traffic stop, etc.

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    Re: Texas Bill Would Make Recording Police Illegal

    Quote Originally Posted by BrewerBob View Post
    Within 25 feet.

    I am a strong supporter in the public's right to record police officers. But I also don't have a problem with giving the officers a buffer zone to do their work. Reasonable people can certainly disagree on what that distance should be.
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    Re: Texas Bill Would Make Recording Police Illegal

    Quote Originally Posted by BrewerBob View Post
    I don't disagree that the police will manipulate the rule. But that doesn't mean such a rule isn't justified.

    I am the father of two young sons. One of my oldest son's favorite past-times is to lick his finger and stick it about one inch from his brother's face and when his brother protests he says, "What?! I'm not touching you!"

    I can envision a situation in which an officer is trying to make a legitimate arrest and bystanders, with cameras or not, start getting too close for comfort. Close enough to be distracting. Close enough the officer may even feel in danger. Imagine a group of friends out, perhaps they just won a hockey game, and one of them throws a beer bottle through a car window breaking it. An officer sees it and starts arresting the guy. All of a sudden his dozen buddies surround him and the officer and get really close. They are yelling at the officer that their buddy didn't do anything and this is ****ed up and they start calling him a pig and everything else. Everything they are yelling is protected by the first amendment, as it should be. But it will be very difficult for the officer to do his job properly and communicate with dispatch over the noise.

    "We're not touching you! We're not touching you!"

    A balance has to be found.
    so you pass a law that makes interfering with cops illegal. if it can be shown that someone's behavior is meant to intentionally (or unintentionally) interfere with officers, then they can be charged with that crime. aren't those laws already on the books though?

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    Re: Texas Bill Would Make Recording Police Illegal

    Quote Originally Posted by bg85 View Post
    my problem with giving them a specified buffer zone (any specified buffer zone) is that it then becomes a question of measuring the distance to prove guilt or innocence. also, a cop doesn't even need to charge someone with a crime in order to abuse the law. they can just start telling everyone to get back and that their filming is illegal, or use the opportunity to confiscate a camera before a person has had a chance to put the specified distance between themselves and an officer. also if you're in a small room this would essentially make filming the officer illegal, or if you were stopped at a traffic stop, etc.
    Those are all good points. I would have to say that unless the law can be written specifically to address such concerns then it is best not to pass any law regarding it.

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    Re: Texas Bill Would Make Recording Police Illegal

    This topic was already made and discussed.

    http://www.debatepolitics.com/law-an...amendment.html

    It does not make recording police illegal.
    It makes certain types of recordings illegal.
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    Re: Texas Bill Would Make Recording Police Illegal

    Quote Originally Posted by Excon View Post
    This topic was already made and discussed.
    It does not make recording police illegal.
    It makes certain types of recordings illegal.
    what types?

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    Re: Texas Bill Would Make Recording Police Illegal

    Quote Originally Posted by bg85 View Post
    what types?
    Read the other thread.
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    Re: Texas Bill Would Make Recording Police Illegal

    Quote Originally Posted by BrewerBob View Post
    I don't disagree that the police will manipulate the rule. But that doesn't mean such a rule isn't justified.
    The rule isn't justified because there are already rules on interfering with the police. This is just something to give the authority a cheater-arm, a way to exert more torque on the People and hide their actions. The laws necessary already exist, they can't use them because they haven't been violated on whole by people recording. So they need a new law to give more force to government to use against the rights and liberties of the People.
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    Re: Texas Bill Would Make Recording Police Illegal

    Quote Originally Posted by Excon View Post
    Read the other thread.
    or I could just continue the good discussion we're having in here and ignore your fly-by post. have a great day!

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