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    Re: Texas Bill Would Make Recording Police Illegal

    Quote Originally Posted by Mason66 View Post
    Really, so if you are stopped for a traffic citation and had a camera running on your dash to record the incident, yo would be guilty under this law.

    That is not right.
    As I mentioned in another post the buffer zone should be waved if YOU are the one the officer is interacting with.

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    Re: Texas Bill Would Make Recording Police Illegal

    Quote Originally Posted by Gaius46 View Post
    If the drafters of the bill were worried about interference with police performing their duties the bill would call for a 25' perimeter excluding ALL people, not just those with a camera.

    The bill doesn't contain an exception for persons being investigated by the officer so presumably a motorist stopped by the police could not legally videotape the encounter under this law.



    Courts have consistently held that recording police in the performance of their duties is permissible under the First Amendment. Even if this was passed it likely would not stand a Constitutional challenge.
    Exactly. This bill wasn't designed to prevent interference. This is just a great way for the police to seize footage they don't want publicized. "Oh... You are less than 25 feet away. I will arrest you and seize your camera as evidence.
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    Re: Texas Bill Would Make Recording Police Illegal

    Photography is not a crime.
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    Re: Texas Bill Would Make Recording Police Illegal

    Didn't the supreme court already decide this issue?
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    How come only Republicans in these wacky states come up with these unconstitutional and counter productive ideas?? Is this bill intended to shield police even more from harassing and killing innocent people? What other purpose does it serve. The cops have the guns right??

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    Re: Texas Bill Would Make Recording Police Illegal

    Quote Originally Posted by JANFU View Post
    Note it excludes news people.
    Which means the blanket statement is wrong.
    As I stated.
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    Re: Texas Bill Would Make Recording Police Illegal

    Quote Originally Posted by Gaius46 View Post
    If the drafters of the bill were worried about interference with police performing their duties the bill would call for a 25' perimeter excluding ALL people, not just those with a camera.

    The bill doesn't contain an exception for persons being investigated by the officer so presumably a motorist stopped by the police could not legally videotape the encounter under this law.



    Courts have consistently held that recording police in the performance of their duties is permissible under the First Amendment. Even if this was passed it likely would not stand a Constitutional challenge.
    Good point.

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    Re: Texas Bill Would Make Recording Police Illegal

    Quote Originally Posted by beefheart View Post
    Except for the language of the bill that outlaws recording of police under the circumstances spelled out within.

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    Quote Originally Posted by beefheart View Post
    Except for the language of the bill that outlaws recording of police under the circumstances spelled out within.
    It is already illegal to record police while they are in certain situations so is it your opinion that we should be able to follow cops into the rest room and record them in there, even though we can't record other people in there?
    I guess that you would agree thatother public decency laws make it illegal to record cops...

    "Huffington Post troll" ??????
    The internet is full of trolls hired by the far left slim like George Soros to post crap like this and many forum sites give them leave to post deceptive titles like this one so that is all they do all daylong.
    Many of the trolls drop their bag of crap and then run away holding their noses.


    It is not illegal to video police officers in the state of Texas.Is it?And this bill would not make it illegal to video tape cops from a reasonable distance, would it??

    We have all seen cases where as many as ten people were crowded around the cop with their phones as he tried to manage the situation. Most cameras have zoom functions so there is no need to get closer than 25 feet if you want to record the cop's actions.

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    Re: Texas Bill Would Make Recording Police Illegal

    Quote Originally Posted by Iron River View Post
    It is already illegal to record police while they are in certain situations so is it your opinion that we should be able to follow cops into the rest room and record them in there, even though we can't record other people in there?I guess that you would agree thatother public decency laws make it illegal to record cops...


    Laws already on the books address this. Why do we need special restrictions on those with mobile phones and the camera ON, versus those with mobile phones and the camera OFF? Other than the obvious - cops don't like being filmed.

    The internet is full of trolls hired by the far left slim like George Soros to post crap like this and many forum sites give them leave to post deceptive titles like this one so that is all they do all daylong.Many of the trolls drop their bag of crap and then run away holding their noses.

    It is not illegal to video police officers in the state of Texas.Is it?And this bill would not make it illegal to video tape cops from a reasonable distance, would it??

    We have all seen cases where as many as ten people were crowded around the cop with their phones as he tried to manage the situation. Most cameras have zoom functions so there is no need to get closer than 25 feet if you want to record the cop's actions.
    25 feet means you can't record your own interactions with police. Convenient, for cops!

    If you're carrying a gun, it's 100 feet. If the action is inside, that means you're probably outside. Good luck with that zoom going through doors and walls....

    And if you're in your car, police stop you, and your wife is in the passenger seat. If she records you getting drug out of the car and beaten, she's a criminal and faces 6 months in jail, a year if she's got a legal firearm in her purse. Glad you're OK with that, but the rest of the sane world sees it for the terrible law it is. What the law should do is go the other way and provide explicit protections to those recording interactions with the police, instead of singling out those individuals for special restrictions.

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    Re: Texas Bill Would Make Recording Police Illegal

    Quote Originally Posted by BrewerBob View Post
    As I mentioned in another post the buffer zone should be waved if YOU are the one the officer is interacting with.
    But that's not enough. If you and three buddies are in a car, and the driver is stopped, any of you should be able to record the stop without committing a crime. If you see someone on the street getting beaten, no need to pace off up to 100 feet to record the action. It's a simple matter to come up with scenarios where that's not possible to do and record the event - alley, hallway, public bathroom, very crowded street where 25 feet or 100 feet means people between you and the event, etc.

    There is no need for any law other than the one on the books preventing ANYONE from interfering with police doing their job. I see no way to justify special restrictions for those with a mobile phone camera ON, versus those with their mobile phone camera OFF.

    If you support the law, you must conclude that citizens recording interactions with police are something to be discouraged, not encouraged. Seems obvious we should want MORE of these recordings, not less (unless you're a cop), and naturally it was police groups that drafted this legislation....
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