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    Re: Iran will only sign nuclear deal if sanctions lifted 'same day': Rouhani

    Quote Originally Posted by MMC View Post
    Look like Corker will have the override.....although I doubt he will announce it. Works better as a surprise.
    doesn't it take 2/3 vote of congress to override? does it really have that much support? that's pretty significant.

    says here it "tentatively" has 64 votes which is 3 shy: http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2015/0...n_7029340.html

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    Re: Iran will only sign nuclear deal if sanctions lifted 'same day': Rouhani

    Quote Originally Posted by bg85 View Post
    doesn't it take 2/3 vote of congress to override? does it really have that much support? that's pretty significant.

    says here it "tentatively" has 64 votes which is 3 shy: Barbara Boxer Tells Bob Corker It's 'Reckless' And 'Irresponsible' To Vote Now On Iran Bill

    I think they will be 2 over.....when all is said and done.



    Chuck Schumer bucks White House on Iran.....


    The comments Monday by the Democratic leader-in-waiting illustrate the enormity of the task ahead for Obama and his team: While thereís no guarantee that Congress would ultimately reject an agreement with Iran, thereís an increasingly bipartisan consensus that Congress should at least have the ability to do so.

    Within the Senate Democratic Caucus, a dozen senators have either co-sponsored Corkerís legislation or indicated they could support it. That would put the measure one vote shy of a veto-proof majority. On Monday, three more Democratic senators ó Kirsten Gillibrand of New York, Joe Manchin of West Virginia and Claire McCaskill of Missouri ó left open the possibility of voting for it, according to aides. Their support, however, could hinge on whether Sen. Ben Cardin (D-Md.), the new ranking member of the Foreign Relations Committee, is able to negotiate concessions that alleviate concerns the bill could derail any agreement.

    But White House press secretary Josh Earnest declined to entertain that possibility, telling reporters on Monday that the White House sees no way to reconcile Corkerís bill with the presidentís mission of finishing Iran negotiations before Congress votes on anything.....snip~

    Chuck Schumer bucks White House on Iran - Burgess Everett - POLITICO

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    Re: Iran will only sign nuclear deal if sanctions lifted 'same day': Rouhani

    Quote Originally Posted by MMC View Post
    I think they will be 2 over.....when all is said and done.



    Chuck Schumer bucks White House on Iran.....


    The comments Monday by the Democratic leader-in-waiting illustrate the enormity of the task ahead for Obama and his team: While there’s no guarantee that Congress would ultimately reject an agreement with Iran, there’s an increasingly bipartisan consensus that Congress should at least have the ability to do so.

    Within the Senate Democratic Caucus, a dozen senators have either co-sponsored Corker’s legislation or indicated they could support it. That would put the measure one vote shy of a veto-proof majority. On Monday, three more Democratic senators — Kirsten Gillibrand of New York, Joe Manchin of West Virginia and Claire McCaskill of Missouri — left open the possibility of voting for it, according to aides. Their support, however, could hinge on whether Sen. Ben Cardin (D-Md.), the new ranking member of the Foreign Relations Committee, is able to negotiate concessions that alleviate concerns the bill could derail any agreement.

    But White House press secretary Josh Earnest declined to entertain that possibility, telling reporters on Monday that the White House sees no way to reconcile Corker’s bill with the president’s mission of finishing Iran negotiations before Congress votes on anything.....snip~

    Chuck Schumer bucks White House on Iran - Burgess Everett - POLITICO
    well I guess that's why they'll have to vote on it and see I suppose. seems a far cry from your statement that "looks like corker will have the override" though.

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    Re: Iran will only sign nuclear deal if sanctions lifted 'same day': Rouhani

    Quote Originally Posted by bg85 View Post
    well I guess that's why they'll have to vote on it and see I suppose. seems a far cry from your statement that "looks like corker will have the override" though.

    Doesn't look like a far cry to many......especially being one shy and having 3 more come out after Shumer and his thoughts on it. This past Monday.

    April 14th is the vote.....and Corker has really never been one to run around bragging.

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    Re: Iran will only sign nuclear deal if sanctions lifted 'same day': Rouhani

    Quote Originally Posted by MMC View Post
    Doesn't look like a far cry to many......especially being one shy and having 3 more come out after Shumer and his thoughts on it. This past Monday.

    April 14th is the vote.....and Corker has really never been one to run around bragging.
    from your article: "Within the Senate Democratic Caucus, a dozen senators have either co-sponsored Corker’s legislation or indicated they could support it."

    so, the bill could have enough support to be one shy of passage. Then another three could be open to supporting it. all of which "could hinge on whether Sen. Ben Cardin (D-Md.), the new ranking member of the Foreign Relations Committee, is able to negotiate concessions that alleviate concerns the bill could derail any agreement."

    I dunno, I just think you're way, way too confident that all of that means the bill will "likely" have the override, but I'm just basing that opinion off what you've said so far.

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    Re: Iran will only sign nuclear deal if sanctions lifted 'same day': Rouhani

    Quote Originally Posted by bg85 View Post
    from your article: "Within the Senate Democratic Caucus, a dozen senators have either co-sponsored Corker’s legislation or indicated they could support it."

    so, the bill could have enough support to be one shy of passage. Then another three could be open to supporting it. all of which "could hinge on whether Sen. Ben Cardin (D-Md.), the new ranking member of the Foreign Relations Committee, is able to negotiate concessions that alleviate concerns the bill could derail any agreement."

    I dunno, I just think you're way, way too confident that all of that means the bill will "likely" have the override, but I'm just basing that opinion off what you've said so far.


    Well I figure McCaskill will carry BO's water and Manchin and Gillibrand will go with Congress and their duty. But that's alright.....its fine with your doubting. A few others have some bills too.

    We will see if the Republicans are all talk or back to having no spine.

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    Re: Iran will only sign nuclear deal if sanctions lifted 'same day': Rouhani

    Quote Originally Posted by Montecresto View Post
    No worries. We're almost certain to have a GOP WH next go around and I'm sure we will be bombing Iran. And if not, Netanyahu's tweekin in Israel, and he's sure to get the job done.
    Now you're talkin'.
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    Re: Iran will only sign nuclear deal if sanctions lifted 'same day': Rouhani

    Quote Originally Posted by bg85 View Post
    doesn't it take 2/3 vote of congress to override? does it really have that much support? that's pretty significant.

    says here it "tentatively" has 64 votes which is 3 shy: Barbara Boxer Tells Bob Corker It's 'Reckless' And 'Irresponsible' To Vote Now On Iran Bill
    Actually it requires a 2/3s majority to ratify it otherwise it is a worthless piece of paper, but of course that's what Obama thinks the Constitution is.

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    Re: Iran will only sign nuclear deal if sanctions lifted 'same day': Rouhani

    On the whole, I am tending towards opposing this unless many parameters are far more explicitly defined. As it is now, Iran has excess wriggle room. For example...

    "Iran's military sites cannot be inspected under the excuse of nuclear supervision." -- Iranian Supreme Leader Ayatollah Ali Khamenei | 9 April 2015
    The Iranian Revolutionary Guard Corps (IRGC/Pasdaran) is part and parcel of the Iranian military. It is a major player in the Iranian nuclear program and engages in research, security, domestic nuclear parts procurement and fabrication (via university laboratories, weapons manufacturers, and companies connected to nuclear technology), and foreign nuclear-related procurement (via cyber-hacking and front companies).

    For all practical purposes, the IRGC acts as a parallel-agency to the Atomic Energy Organization of Iran (AEOI). The IRGC also controls Iran's ballistic missile forces.

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    Re: Iran will only sign nuclear deal if sanctions lifted 'same day': Rouhani

    Quote Originally Posted by Anthony60 View Post
    Now you're talkin'.
    Exactly Anthony .....as it is clear about one thing when it comes to Iran. Democrats were always weak on the issue, Democrats show they are still weak on the Issue, and that they really don't have any idea how to handle Foreign Affairs.

    Absolute ****ing failures that should have to suffer consequences for the fools they always have been.

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