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    Re: Iran will only sign nuclear deal if sanctions lifted 'same day': Rouhani

    Quote Originally Posted by Fearandloathing View Post
    Same here.


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    I'm a conservative, but I'm pretty much laissez faire when it comes to social issues. I don't presume to know the way for others, but I do demand respect for all stripes of social positions - except for the obvious nuts. Hillary just doesn't attract that much adoration among those I know, whether left or right, for reasons that are transparent. She'll have significant support, but I don't think it'll stand the test of scrutiny by those who scrutinize in the media - there are some who aren't in the tank for her, both left and right. Then there's the ongoing scandals that are at her feet. They're not going away.

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    Re: Iran will only sign nuclear deal if sanctions lifted 'same day': Rouhani

    This is entirely expected, folks. The interim framework agreement did not in any way prevent Party A to disagree with Party B about what it thinks is going to happen going forward. It's all part of the process. However, what is becoming increasingly clear is that the United States is entirely vulnerable to wanting a deal more than wanting to secure its national interests. The Iranians are going to try to strong-arm the U.S. into giving up more and more of what it would ordinarily want in pursuit of preventing nuclear proliferation. The U.S. has to be willing to be as intransigent (and more so) than the Iranians.
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    Re: Iran will only sign nuclear deal if sanctions lifted 'same day': Rouhani

    Quote Originally Posted by MMC View Post
    Well they can ask her.....as to what does she have to about this guy, and all he is saying Right now.



    Ayatollah Khamenei Accuses WH of 'Lying,' Being 'Deceptive,' and Having 'Devilish' Intentions.....

    Earlier today, Khamenei broke his silence on the supposed “framework” the Obama administration has been trumpeting as the basis for a nuclear accord. Khamenei’s speech pulled the rug out from underneath the administration.

    Khamenei accused the Obama administration of “lying” about the proposed terms, being “deceptive,” and having “devilish” intentions, according to multiple published accounts of his speech, as well as posts on his official Twitter feed.

    Khamenei also disputed the key terms Obama administration officials have said were agreed upon in principle. Economic sanctions will not be phased out once Iran’s compliance has been “verified,” according to the Ayatollah. Instead, Khamenei said that if the U.S. wants a deal, then all sanctions must be dropped as soon as the agreement is finalized. Khamenei also put strict limits on the reach of the inspectors who would be tasked with this verification process in the first place......snip~

    Ayatollah Khamenei Accuses WH of 'Lying,' Being 'Deceptive,' and Having 'Devilish' Intentions | The Weekly Standard
    He would be right about that, Obama is known for his lies. Obama continues his lies over Iran to the American people, he yells out "we have a framework" within a week that framework went up in smoke. Blew up in his face. Obama will be gathering up what marbles he has left and go home.
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    Re: Iran will only sign nuclear deal if sanctions lifted 'same day': Rouhani

    Quote Originally Posted by Born Free View Post
    He would be right about that, Obama is known for his lies. Obama continues his lies over Iran to the American people, he yells out "we have a framework" within a week that framework went up in smoke. Blew up in his face. Obama will be gathering up what marbles he has left and go home.
    Mornin BF. BO did respond back and told the Iranians they try to play that card. The US walks away from the table and nothing more is said.

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    Re: Iran will only sign nuclear deal if sanctions lifted 'same day': Rouhani

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    Regardless of your political persuasion, unless you support the left here no matter what, she's just not a likeable person. She's shallow, petty, self aggrandizing, elitist, and a profound liar. I don't know of many who will support her in the end, and I have many liberal friends. Many. We get along because like them, I'm a reasonable asshole with some principles. Hillary doesn't have any, and they know it. We all know it.
    Besides the fact that I strongly believe we need to move on from both the Clinton and Bush families, I agree with your opinion on Hillary. I'm down with a woman president, just not her, Bachman or Palin. What do any democrats see in Hillary, she's so unlikable! And she's a hawk, not a McCain or Graham hawk, but she's a hawk, probably killed JFK jr to secure the New York senate seat, (joking) and has a most uppity and condescending attitude, every time she's been required to testify before any panel being held accountable for anything.
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    Re: Iran will only sign nuclear deal if sanctions lifted 'same day': Rouhani

    It looks to me that 0bama is asking his minions in the senate to stop this deal because it is so bad that he knows that it will endanger the rest of the world - where he will live after he leaves the WH - that way he can blame the Republicans for killing the great deal that Kerry made and press ahead with normalizing relations with Cuba, letting Russia invade Ukraine, doing an executive order to impose a carbon tax even though we are the world's largest producer of the cleanest burning fuel.

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    Re: Iran will only sign nuclear deal if sanctions lifted 'same day': Rouhani

    Quote Originally Posted by humbolt View Post
    I'm a conservative, but I'm pretty much laissez faire when it comes to social issues. I don't presume to know the way for others, but I do demand respect for all stripes of social positions - except for the obvious nuts. Hillary just doesn't attract that much adoration among those I know, whether left or right, for reasons that are transparent. She'll have significant support, but I don't think it'll stand the test of scrutiny by those who scrutinize in the media - there are some who aren't in the tank for her, both left and right. Then there's the ongoing scandals that are at her feet. They're not going away.


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    In watching US politics I am never sure of anything. And anything Clinton is a mystery to me. I have never understood the appeal of Bill and his escapades in fly opening should have killed him, lets face it he was an adequate president.

    But Hillary? An annoying personality wrapped up in self love, no record outside of one groomed for her, and the sex appeal of a dog turd.

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    Re: Iran will only sign nuclear deal if sanctions lifted 'same day': Rouhani

    Quote Originally Posted by MMC View Post
    Mornin BF. BO did respond back and told the Iranians they try to play that card. The US walks away from the table and nothing more is said.
    Yeah right, another red line in the sand that can be wiped out by dragging your foot over it.
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    Re: Iran will only sign nuclear deal if sanctions lifted 'same day': Rouhani

    Quote Originally Posted by Born Free View Post
    Yeah right, another red line in the sand that can be wiped out by dragging your foot over it.
    Well honestly, I was just going with what he said. Not what BO will do. Maybe BO should call those Blue lines.

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    Re: Iran will only sign nuclear deal if sanctions lifted 'same day': Rouhani

    Quote Originally Posted by MMC View Post
    Well honestly, I was just going with what he said. Not what BO will do. Maybe BO should call those Blue lines.
    Understand I was mocking BO with my comment of yet another "red line" that is really not "red" at all, but more like "green". Do whatever you want.
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