Video Shows Officer Shooting Unarmed Black Man in South Carolina

JoeTrumps · Apr 9, 2015

Montecresto said:
Well thankfully we have far more people that disagree with you, including the police chief. Did you hear that Slager has been charged with murder, apparently authorities didn't agree that Scott's running away twice was grounds for being killed. :roll:

ok, ok. let me try this another way. Do you agree that if this guy had on OUNCE OF SENSE and didn't run from the cop at least twice(something no rational human being would do) that he would still be alive and well? Because if the answer is "yes" than that means the man had a hand in his own demise. that's all I'm saying. I'm not rooting for the cop to go free. I'm just talking reality.

Montecresto · Apr 9, 2015

JoeTrumps said:
ok, ok. let me try this another way. Do you agree that if this guy had on OUNCE OF SENSE and didn't run from the cop at least twice(something no rational human being would do) that he would still be alive and well? Because if the answer is "yes" than that means the man had a hand in his own demise. that's all I'm saying. I'm not rooting for the cop to go free. I'm just talking reality.

Slager has been charged with murder for a damn good reason, pity you can't see that. I guess if the girl hadn't been wearing shorts and a halter top while jogging through the park she'd not have been raped, knifed, and dumped in the creek bed. Must have had a hand in her own demise.

JoeTrumps · Apr 9, 2015

Montecresto said:
Slager has been charged with murder for a damn good reason, pity you can't see that. I guess if the girl hadn't been wearing shorts and a halter top while jogging through the park she'd not have been raped, knifed, and dumped in the creek bed. Must have had a hand in her own demise.

so you're comparing a man with a warrant on him who ran from the cops(twice) with an innocent woman wearing a halter top? Do you know what a quantum leap is? because I believe you accomplished it.

Montecresto · Apr 10, 2015

JoeTrumps said:
so you're comparing a man with a warrant on him who ran from the cops(twice) with an innocent woman wearing a halter top? Do you know what a quantum leap is? because I believe you accomplished it.

Lol, and your the one struggling to understand why Slager is being charged with MURDER!!!

csbrown28 · Apr 10, 2015

Chainsaw said:
That is more of a sad commentary on Obama's disdain for the military and appeasement of the enemy. Yes putting soldiers is harms way then hand-cuffing them with such sniveling rules of engagement is disdain and contempt to the military.

Bizarre rules of war have been in place since CNN started beaming back real time video from the front lines.

There are few things more ubiquitous on the right than blaming Obama for virtually anything and everything. Coffee shortage, it's Obama, school lunch pizza takes like ****-on-a-shingle, it's Obama's fault, Miley Cyrus miss her period, Obama's fault.

Frankly I think it's comical.

Lursa · Apr 10, 2015

flogger said:
One has to wonder that if you can get shot for a felony as benign as this then what sort of instance would a shooting possibly be non justifiable ? This sort of thing would be dealt with by social workers here in the UK not trigger happy law enforcement

It's not justifiable. Hence his immediate firing and the murder charges brought against him.

Criminals come in all forms....even in uniform.

Lursa · Apr 10, 2015

Hmmm. Just watched dash cam footage of the initial car stop. Annoying and not really relevant but the guy was pulled over for not paying child support...and was driving a Mercedes Benz.

Well, POS or not (and I dont think highly, obviously, of those that dont pay their child support, male or female)....he didnt deserve to die as he did.

Grant · Apr 10, 2015

csbrown28 said:
Bizarre rules of war have been in place since CNN started beaming back real time video from the front lines.

There are few things more ubiquitous on the right than blaming Obama for virtually anything and everything. Coffee shortage, it's Obama, school lunch pizza takes like ****-on-a-shingle, it's Obama's fault, Miley Cyrus miss her period, Obama's fault.

Frankly I think it's comical.

Frankly, that's called hyperbole.

Hatuey · Apr 10, 2015

Goshin said:
ISIS dehumanized their self by torturing people to death just for being different.

"Cops" as a class don't do such things as a matter of policy or common practice. Apples and Orangutans....

You can't deprive yourself of human qualities. It's an action applied on to someone else just like humanizing.

Lursa · Apr 10, 2015

csbrown28 said:
So I was listening to XM radio, one of the political channels and they were talking about this. A vet from the Iraq war called in and said that the justification for shooting a potential combatant was stricter in some cases, than the police have when dealing with citizens. He said that towards the end of the war if a person was walking towards him with a weapon he would have to wait until the actual weapon was pointed at him, or shots fired before he could respond.

As a side note the Geneva convention calls for FMJ bullets in fields of battle, where police are allowed to use HP's on civilians. Again, some real bass aquards thinking....

HPs help protect the public. The drama around HPs is ridiculous.

Lursa · Apr 10, 2015

JoeTrumps said:
ok, ok. let me try this another way. Do you agree that if this guy had on OUNCE OF SENSE and didn't run from the cop at least twice(something no rational human being would do) that he would still be alive and well? Because if the answer is "yes" than that means the man had a hand in his own demise. that's all I'm saying. I'm not rooting for the cop to go free. I'm just talking reality.

Yeah, blame the victim.

"Yeah, do you agree that if she hadnt been wearing that short skirt and the low cut blouse and strappy high heels and make up, that she wouldnt have caught his attention and he wouldnt have raped her?"

Jeebus.

Lursa · Apr 10, 2015

JoeTrumps said:
so you're comparing a man with a warrant on him who ran from the cops(twice) with an innocent woman wearing a halter top? Do you know what a quantum leap is? because I believe you accomplished it.

No, you are the one blaming the victim. The cop did *not* have to shoot the man to apprehend him and as the evidence indicates, he didnt have legal justification either.

Lursa · Apr 10, 2015

Montecresto said:
Slager has been charged with murder for a damn good reason, pity you can't see that. I guess if the girl hadn't been wearing shorts and a halter top while jogging through the park she'd not have been raped, knifed, and dumped in the creek bed. Must have had a hand in her own demise.

I hadnt read this when I posted....but yes!

Excon · Apr 10, 2015

Lursa said:
No, you are the one blaming the victim. The cop did *not* have to shoot the man to apprehend him and as the evidence indicates, he didnt have legal justification either.

Wrong.
His taking the taser made him a threat and allowed the Officer to shoot him.

flogger · Apr 10, 2015

Excon said:
Wrong.
His taking the taser made him a threat and allowed the Officer to shoot him.

If you can bring yourself to believe that then you can believe anything justifies lethal response in any circumstance

Excon · Apr 10, 2015

More info for this thread.

Police report.
Scroll up a little to see it.
http://www.buzzfeed.com/buzzfeednew...-woul?utm_term=.syY47kR60&sub=3747052_5448312

Which just confirms SMTA's claims were wrong as he was told

Here it can be seen that the Officer is already reaching for his firearm prior to the taser being thrown by the suspect.

Infinite Chaos · Apr 10, 2015

Excon said:
Wrong.
His taking the taser made him a threat and allowed the Officer to shoot him.

You have evidence the guy took the officer's taser?

Excon · Apr 10, 2015

Infinite Chaos said:
You have evidence the guy took the officer's taser?

His claim is evidence that he did.

And look at the picture provided. It is not in the Officer's hands.
The Officer is reaching downwards to grab his firearm.
The only other place for the moving taser to then come from is the suspect, which corresponds with what the Officer said.

Infinite Chaos · Apr 10, 2015

Excon said:
-- corresponds with what the Officer said.

Santana had already begun filming when the man began to run from the officer. “I remember the police had control of the situation, had control of Scott,” he said. “And Scott was trying just to get away from the Taser. You could hear the sound of the Taser.”

“I believe he just wanted to get away from the Taser,” Santana added. “But like I said, [Scott] never used the Taser.” Link.

The witness doesn't describe any time where he saw the suspect grab or use the taser. I have read previously that the policeman had discharged the taser but it hadn't worked. (He may not have gotten a clean shot)

Excon · Apr 10, 2015

flogger said:
If you can bring yourself to believe that then you can believe anything justifies lethal response in any circumstance

No flogger.
He took the Officers weapon. That is the evidence. To not believe that, it has to be shown it isn't true which is impossible given the video evidence.
Look at the provided screen capture.
The only place the thrown taser could have come from is the suspect, as the Officer has a hold of the suspect with one hand and is reaching down for his firearm with the other and then as the video continues past that point the taser is thrown past the Officer.

flogger · Apr 10, 2015

Excon said:
His claim is evidence that he did.

No it is not. It is a blatant lie in fact in light of what this officer subsequently did with this tazer. The video evidence you claim clearly exonerates the officer does nothing of the sort frankly. On the contrary it incriminates him

You seem to be an apologist for this sort of extreme violence by your law enforcement

Excon · Apr 10, 2015

Infinite Chaos said:
The witness doesn't describe any time where he saw the suspect grab or use the taser. I have read previously that the policeman had discharged the taser but it hadn't worked. (He may not have gotten a clean shot)

The witness made a very peculiar statement that would not have been made had the suspect not had the taser.

“I remember the police [officer] had control of the situation,” he said. “He had control of Scott. And Scott was trying just to get away from the Taser.
But like I said, he never used the Taser against the cop.”
Man who filmed S.C. police shooting: Maybe God ‘put me there for some reason’ - The Washington Post

That is an indication that he had the taser but didn't use it.
And the Officer never said he did used it either. Only that he took it.

Lursa · Apr 10, 2015

Infinite Chaos said:
The witness doesn't describe any time where he saw the suspect grab or use the taser. I have read previously that the policeman had discharged the taser but it hadn't worked. (He may not have gotten a clean shot)

A misfiring/useless weapon could be quickly tossed aside or dropped by the cop in order to save time retrieving his gun.

Some people will justify anything. There was no imminent, lethal threat to the cop when he shot the guy and the video shows this clearly.

Excon · Apr 10, 2015

flogger said:
No it is not. It is a blatant lie in fact in light of what this officer subsequently did with this tazer. The video evidence you claim clearly exonerates the officer does nothing of the sort frankly. On the contrary it incriminates him

You seem to be an apologist for this sort of extreme violence by your law enforcement

You are speaking nonsense.
Yes his statement is evidence and no it is not a blatant lie. That is a ridiculously false claim.

And what do you think he did with this taser?
Are you assuming like everyone else that he picked it up and then dropped it by the suspect to set the suspect up?
If that is the case, then why can he be seen picking it up again and placing it in his utility belt? Obviously it wouldn't be to plant anything. Duh!
If you knew procedure, he was securing his weapon just as he called to have is car secured.

Excon · Apr 10, 2015

Lursa said:
A misfiring/useless weapon could be quickly tossed aside or dropped by the cop in order to save time retrieving his gun.

Some people will justify anything. There was no imminent, lethal threat to the cop when he shot the guy and the video shows this clearly.

:doh
Look at the provided image.
He had one hand on the suspect and the other was reaching down to grab his firearm. Not throwing something. That in itself is and indication that the suspect is a threat at that moment.
The taser than flies past the Officer.
That is not the Officer throwing it. That is the suspect throwing it, which is supported by the Officer's statement.

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