Video Shows Officer Shooting Unarmed Black Man in South Carolina

DA60 said:

A doctored video. What happened before it was filmed. What happened outside of the shot. What was said. Hundreds of circumstances...thousands. We do not know the entire story. And I refuse to convict the man without knowing ALL the evidence.

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I agree and the video evidence needs to be verified and validated as well as this going through the normal justice system. However, assuming its legit, and there is no evidence as of yet that its anything but, the video is pretty damning. As of now, the only account is the officer's. The video cast serious doubt to his credibility as it contradicts some his official report on what occurred. You'd be hard pressed to agree that he was in danger, regardless of what occurred prior to the start of the video. Its plausible that Scott had hold of the taser and threw it down or just knocked it out Slager's hand. If Scott still had the taser in his hand when the officer open fire, that claim could be made and the use of deadly force would certainly have been justified. But he started firing when Scott was fleeing, empty handed and nearly 15' away. Goes further against his credibility that he runs back, grabs the taser and drops on the ground next to Scott, handcuffed on the ground (frankly, view this as an "Oh S#%t" moment realizing he screwed up).

So as of now, the guy looks guilty as hell. My mind could be changed and I'd admit I was wrong but it'd take some pretty damned good evidence to the contrary at this point, proof of the video being doctored would certainly be one.

I'm not one of the d-bags around here who claim all cops are bad, lie, cheat, whatever either. Just call it like I see it with whats available.

Considering and if all is legit, this will never go to trial beyond arraignment....unless the guy get a lawyer that is complete and utter idiot.

solletica said:

TRANSLATION: over on some right wing websites, they are defending this cop. sigh

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There are still left wingers defending cop killers. What's your point?

solletica said:

Body cams on cops are 100% worthless. The police depts. would just doctor the body cam videos or else the cops would turn off the cams and/or censor specific footage.

In the event body cam videos were available for the public to see, there would be huge discrepancies in the video picked up by those cams and those picked up by bystander cameras and/or cell phones.

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Such unwarranted cynicism.

I don't see this cop getting away with this. It's too damning, to cut and dry. Like I said earlier he should just take a plea. Even if he somehow beats to state chatges, then the Feds will take over. And with this kind of stuff the Feds are like pit bulls. They always have been.

CRUE CAB said:

50 is a senior?

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According to AARP they are. I got my AARP "invitation" card a few weeks before I turned 50 and my wife got hers a few weeks after she turned 50. I took great pride in tossing mine into the trash can.

imagep said:

According to AARP they are. I got my AARP "invitation" card a few weeks before I turned 50 and my wife got hers a few weeks after she turned 50. I took great pride in tossing mine into the trash can.

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Me too. :thumbs:

ObamacareFail said:

For their protection as well as the suspects.

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Police body cams is like GPS bracelets for child molesters--trinkets to make the gullible think they're safer, while being 100% worthless in practice.

ObamacareFail said:

Such unwarranted cynicism.

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Conservative motto: "I trust my government!"

ObamacareFail said:

The cop will ultimately go to prison for life or death row.

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No, he'll walk out of court a free man, compliments of an all-White jury nullifying. He has a baby to raise to be just like him. . .

Slager, 33, has been fired, officials said Wednesday. His wife is eight months pregnant and the city will continue paying for her medical insurance until the baby is born, North Charleston Mayor Keith Summey told reporters.

Michael Thomas Slager charged with murder - CNN.com

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ObamacareFail said:

If you are referring to Fergeson Mi and NYC, there were witnesses as well as other forensic evidence. As for the cop yesterday, the video evidence will make it much easier to convict, however the forensic evidence alone probably would have convicted him. It would have been hard for the cop to explain shooting at the man 8 times and hitting him 5 times in the back.

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Ricochet...

ObamacareFail said:

For their protection as well as the suspects.

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They have deployed a vast quantity here as a test with the manufacturer's blessing. after the firt three months all they had to show for it was a 20% drop in police misconduct complaints. After six they found the "clear rate" for police misconduct complaints has doubled in number and time to clear. And after nine months, they are finding the un-contested tickets and citations/fines issued by these guys has pretty much skyrocketed. I volunteer at the local community office and the joke is "give a cop a donut and he's happy. give a cop a camera and every other cop has to have one."

solletica said:

No, he'll walk out of court a free man, compliments of an all-White jury nullifying. He has a baby to raise to be just like him. . .

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Statements like this simply highlight the fact that your brand of racism isn't all that different than those you criticize.

Excon said:

This is you ignoring what occurred just prior to the actual shooting.

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I don't care if he threw a live grenade at the officers feet.

Does not justify what I saw on that video.

imagep said:

According to AARP they are. I got my AARP "invitation" card a few weeks before I turned 50 and my wife got hers a few weeks after she turned 50. I took great pride in tossing mine into the trash can.

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I started getting those invitations in the mail even before I turned 50. I am 61 now. Since they still insist on sending them out with prepaid envelopes....I either send back the empty envelope or include a printed article berating them for going along with obamacare. Either way, they get stuck with the postage.

solletica said:

Police body cams is like GPS bracelets for child molesters--trinkets to make the gullible think they're safer, while being 100% worthless in practice.

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You are too cynical. It is quite a stretch to claim that either the body cams or the bracelets are 100% cynical. Neither is perfect, however they are both 90% better then nothing.

solletica said:

Conservative motto: "I trust my government!"

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Nope...That's the liberal motto. They luv big government and trust it from cradle to grave. I don't trust many politicians in government, however overall, I tend to trust police departments.

Geoist said:

Shooting a suspect who is running away... more stupid.

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There is legal precedence and justification for shooting at a fleeing suspect.

Excon said:

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Which you just confirmed in the quote above this one.

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Explain to me what could justify shooting a fleeing man in the back.

The Mark said:

Explain to me what could justify shooting a fleeing man in the back.

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If the perp had just killed/shot/stabbed another individual, a reasonable person/cop would believe letting him get away could endanger others in the community.

DA60 said:

A doctored video. What happened before it was filmed. What happened outside of the shot. What was said. Hundreds of circumstances...thousands. We do not know the entire story. And I refuse to convict the man without knowing ALL the evidence.

I knew neither of the individuals involved, so I don't really care if he is guilty or not - just that he receive proper justice and that people wait to decide his guilt or innocence until the matter has gone through the courts and not convict him through the media.

Good day.

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Doctored video,? You mean edited? Like it cuts off something that might have shown Mr. Scott doing something that would have justified his being shot? Logically that makes no sense, as the only other weapon in play was a tazer. Now I could understand if the officer shot mMr. Scott in the act of trying to use a tazer on him, as a tazer could render him incapacitated and give Mr. Scott access to his weapon, but at the point where the video picks up, we see the wires from the tazer in Mr Scott and he is fleeing.

There is nothing in the officers own report, his own words that indicates that there was some other weapon in play.

What could have happened before the video starts that would have justified being shot in the back several seconds and at least 15' to 20' from the officer moving away with his back to him? I'm curious what would have justified in your mind the actions taken by the officer.

I'm a reasonable person, I'd like to think I call things as I see them, but I just can't even imagine that there is anything that could have taken place before the video starts, given the officers own report written in his own words....Or perhaps I just lack imagination....

VanceMack said:

This happens. Not all the time, but it does happen. And when it does, it SHOULD be investigated, prosecuted where warranted, and punished accordingly.

But the only time it matters (and the OP so very clearly illustrates it) is when it is a WHITE cop and a black victim.

Not a ton of outrage when it is a white guy shot by a cop. or a Latino. And if the cop is black? Fuggedaboudit....




But what do the headlines say in THIS case?

"Video Shows Officer Michael Slager Shooting Unarmed Black Man In The Back In South Carolina"

Cause it only matters when the victim is a black man.

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Outrageous crime by that officer. What is happening on it?

Chainsaw said:

If the perp had just killed/shot/stabbed another individual, a reasonable person/cop would believe letting him get away could endanger others in the community.

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That was not the situation.

joko104 said:

It is too hard to tell if that is exactly what happened when the taser FIRST went on the ground. Experts with the video will be able to tell. IF the officer himself dropped the tazer THEN to justify the shooting, it becomes 1st degree pre-meditated. In some states that's potential death penalty or if not then life without parole.

Dropping it later? That is calculating a lie.

I bet that officer does less than 5 years hard time - at worse. Anyone disagree?

Let's hear our police junkies defend this one?

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I'm confident he'll do at least twenty years, probably more. And I don't know any "police junkies" here, only justice junkies.

Excon said:

Oh looky at you ignoring the fact that you are wrong.
Figures. Same old **** just a different day.
The only crying here is yours, you were wrong but refuse to admit it.

There were multiple Officers on the scene.
You have no clue as to which Officers the report was referring.

Nothing you provided shows he gave CPR.
Nothing you provided says he said he gave CPR.
Nothing you have provided says he lied.​

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Video shows the guy dead or dying on the ground for about a minute without any indication CPR was even tried - the officer who shot the man simply handcuffed him face down, and the next officer on the scene just keeled by the handcuffed man/body and looked at it.

Anyone who tried to perform CPR after that scene is ****ing disturbing, unless of course there's a specific requirement that someone try even if the person is obviously dead.

I asked early on how long before the police junkies were on this thread - and they came. Their opinion is simple: Police should kill anyone any officer thinks should be killed. Their reasoning is that no police officer would think someone should be killed if there wasn't a reason the officer thought so.

In addition, they'll add in if the police officer is prosecuted, no police will ever do their job again.

And often such people get on juries. Although they swear an oath to follow the law, as you see on this thread like others they hate the law and absolutely would not uphold any law in relation to police.

The Supreme Court has ruled police can not kill someone merely for fleeing. That makes it the law of the land and every police officer knows it. However, to police junkies, ever police officer is the law of the land.