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    Re: Video Shows Officer Shooting Unarmed Black Man in South Carolina

    Quote Originally Posted by Simon W. Moon View Post
    Local law enforcement saw fit to charge him with murder.
    So, there's that.
    Actually, that would be the District Attorney's office, Officers don't charge anyone. The District Attorney is usually an elected position and thus subject to political, instead of legal, considerations. Now it will be up to a jury. Of course, knowing the current Justice Department, even if found innocent, he will lose his job and be subject to a Federal investigation.
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    Re: Video Shows Officer Shooting Unarmed Black Man in South Carolina

    Quote Originally Posted by nota bene View Post
    Slager's wife is eight months pregnant with his first child (he apparently has stepkids), and I feel terribly, terribly sorry for her.
    Yeah. That part is a big bag of stink. I feel for the unborn kid too.

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    Re: Video Shows Officer Shooting Unarmed Black Man in South Carolina

    Quote Originally Posted by DVSentinel View Post
    Before apprehension and search, how does the officer know the suspect is unarmed?
    Your argument assumes we should err on the side of killing suspects.

    That goes full force against the founding principals of our constitution.

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    Re: Video Shows Officer Shooting Unarmed Black Man in South Carolina

    Quote Originally Posted by Blemonds View Post
    That's what he did
    Well what's the point of radioing in for assistance if you are just going to shoot the unarmed dude?

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    Re: Video Shows Officer Shooting Unarmed Black Man in South Carolina

    Quote Originally Posted by DVSentinel View Post
    Before apprehension and search, how does the officer know the suspect is unarmed?
    I'm sorry, in what police policy and procedure document can you show me an officer is supposed to assume every suspect is armed?

    If that were the case, officers would be able to get a way with A LOT more killings.

    "You see that 16 year old kid? He's running from us! He must be armed! Shoot him!"

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    Re: Video Shows Officer Shooting Unarmed Black Man in South Carolina

    Quote Originally Posted by DVSentinel View Post
    Actually, that would be the District Attorney's office, Officers don't charge anyone. The District Attorney is usually an elected position and thus subject to political, instead of legal, considerations. Now it will be up to a jury. Of course, knowing the current Justice Department, even if found innocent, he will lose his job and be subject to a Federal investigation.
    Your assertion is that a DA is not a part of local law enforcement?
    Not that it's a relevant point anyway. But I am just curious if I understood you.

    Point being that even though you are unable to see the issue with Slager's behavior, the problems with Slager's behavior are obvious to many--including law enforcement professionals and former professionals, like the various people who charged Slager, fired Slager, and refused to provide funding for his defense.

    Given those assessments by presumably qualified personnel, your inability to recognize the the problem with Slager's actions is on you.
    Last edited by Simon W. Moon; 04-14-15 at 09:02 AM.
    I may be wrong.

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    Re: Video Shows Officer Shooting Unarmed Black Man in South Carolina

    Quote Originally Posted by DVSentinel View Post
    ... even if found innocent, he will lose his job and be subject to a Federal investigation.
    Thought I should point out that Slager has already lost his job.
    Slager is already the subject of a federal investigation.
    I may be wrong.

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    Re: Video Shows Officer Shooting Unarmed Black Man in South Carolina

    Quote Originally Posted by Excon View Post
    Surprising? Yes, as he was an Officer at the time of the incident.

    Damning? How so?

    If they are following policy, there is nothing damning about it.





    And such thoughts can be immediately dismissed given the reality ...
    that he knows he is wearing a body mic which would supposedly be capturing the sound of when the taser was employed.
    that he knows he is being recorded. (as confirmed by the witness who was recording)
    that he knows the taser cartridge fires out many id tags which indicates where it was deployed.



    You can't justify shooting a fleeing suspect in the back.

    You can't justify him picking up that taser and dropping it next to the victim.


    Policy does not trump law.


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    Re: Video Shows Officer Shooting Unarmed Black Man in South Carolina

    Quote Originally Posted by DVSentinel View Post
    The officer clearly needs more firearms training. Other than that, what's the problem. He ran. He got shot. Sucks to be him, but he chose to run.



    You can't shoot a fleeing suspect.


    Fleeing felon rule - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia


    Under U.S. law the fleeing felon rule was limited in 1985 to non-lethal force in most cases by Tennessee v. Garner, 471 U.S. 1. The justices held that deadly force "may not be used unless necessary to prevent the escape and the officer has probable cause to believe that the suspect poses a significant threat of death or serious bodily harm to the officer or others."[2]

    A police officer may not seize an unarmed, nondangerous suspect by shooting him dead...however...Where the officer has probable cause to believe that the suspect poses a threat of serious physical harm, either to the officer or to others, it is not constitutionally unreasonable to prevent escape by using deadly force.
    —Justice Byron White, Tennessee v. Garner[3]


    Fleeing felons may be followed into places not open to the public without a warrant if the officer is in "hot pursuit.[4] Deadly force that is executed by a co-defendant against an accomplice is not justified by the fleeing felon rule.

    Even if he had a partner who was shooting at the cop, he couldn't shoot the dood in the back like that.


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    Re: Video Shows Officer Shooting Unarmed Black Man in South Carolina

    Quote Originally Posted by DVSentinel View Post
    Before apprehension and search, how does the officer know the suspect is unarmed?


    So, police should treat everyone as armed and likely to use deadly force, justifying shooting citizens in the back.


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