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    Re: Video Shows Officer Shooting Unarmed Black Man in South Carolina

    Quote Originally Posted by Excon View Post
    You seem to be missing the fact that others haven't been civil. Strange.
    That in itself is a bias problem.

    But if you say you did something and it is obviously is not true, I am not going to let that go unchecked.
    Dishonesty needs to be pointed out.
    You can do that without being snide. And I made my comment because I am among those to whom you have been snide with all your comments about "If you had bothered to read" and etc.

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    Re: Video Shows Officer Shooting Unarmed Black Man in South Carolina

    I'm confused about some of the titles being used. Aren't those who are supervised by a sheriff referred to as "deputies"? Was Slager a county or a city employee?

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    Re: Video Shows Officer Shooting Unarmed Black Man in South Carolina

    Quote Originally Posted by nota bene View Post
    I'm confused about some of the titles being used. Aren't those who are supervised by a sheriff referred to as "deputies"? Was Slager a county or a city employee?
    I believe he was a city policeman. But usually when a city policeman is involved in a shooting as such the sheriff dept takes over investigation. I think you need a separate dept to investigate such an act.

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    Re: Video Shows Officer Shooting Unarmed Black Man in South Carolina

    Quote Originally Posted by nota bene View Post
    There is no need to be snide or condescending to others, and this you have been on this thread. A more civil tone just might foster more engaged and civil debate.
    Exactly. Such limiting shortcomings of a weak position to debate are displayed by statements, for example, where an apologist implies that a cop 'chose' to struggle on the ground with a suspect...lololol.
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    Re: Video Shows Officer Shooting Unarmed Black Man in South Carolina

    Quote Originally Posted by Objective Voice View Post
    First off, I notice you've stopped using the terms "immediate" or "imminent" threats to describe the perceived position Officer Slager believed himself to be in and downgraded such to "significant". Unfortunate for your position, a "significant threat" doesn't measure up to "imminent or immediate danger".

    Second, I totally disagree with your assessment that the tether lines from the taser were wrapped around the victim or the officer. Mr. Scott wouldn't have been able to run and Officer Slager wouldn't have been able to walk unimpeded if they were.

    Third, assuming that the tether was wrapped around (at least) Mr. Scott, common sense would still lead one to conclude that the "significant threat" had abated since the taser leads had already been ejected from the device and the tether remained expelled. You can also conclude that the taser itself had already be discharged since Officer Slager choose not to use it again. (Of course, by then it was on the ground and the tether training the assailant.)

    My point here just as others who have commented against Officer Slager's actions is that Mr. Scott, an unarmed man at the time of his death, was not a threat to the would-be arresting officer. I don't disregard the fact that there was a struggle. I don't disregard the likelihood that Mr. Scott may have possessed Officer Slager's taser. I'm just saying as have others that despite what occurred moments prior to the shooting, Mr. Scott wasn't an "imminent or immediate or significant" threat to Officer Slager or the public at the time he fled unarmed and was subsequently shot multiple times.
    Somehow, there's also some confusion (on other's parts) over the suggestion he planted the taser. Sure, maybe not. He may have just chosen to increase the threat to his own life by placing a dangerous weapon next to the suspect.

    And basic incompetance where a cop places a dangerous weapon next to a still living suspect. Hmmm...incompetant? Or dishonesty? LOL

    I can literally envision verbal gymnastics worthy of an Olympic athlete in that contorted attempt at speculation.
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    Re: Video Shows Officer Shooting Unarmed Black Man in South Carolina

    Quote Originally Posted by Lursa View Post
    Somehow, there's also some confusion (on other's parts) over the suggestion he planted the taser. Sure, maybe not. He may have just chosen to increase the threat to his own life by placing a dangerous weapon next to the suspect.

    And basic incompetance where a cop places a dangerous weapon next to a still living suspect. Hmmm...incompetant? Or dishonesty? LOL

    I can literally envision verbal gymnastics worthy of an Olympic athlete in that contorted attempt at speculation.
    A guy who has been shot eight times isn't an imminent threat if you plant a discharged taser nearby but out of arm's reach.

    ... I really don't know where you were going with this post. A discharged taser isn't a threat, and a guy on the ground after being shot eight times isn't a threat.
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    Re: Video Shows Officer Shooting Unarmed Black Man in South Carolina

    Quote Originally Posted by Lursa View Post
    Somehow, there's also some confusion (on other's parts) over the suggestion he planted the taser. Sure, maybe not. He may have just chosen to increase the threat to his own life by placing a dangerous weapon next to the suspect.

    And basic incompetance where a cop places a dangerous weapon next to a still living suspect. Hmmm...incompetant? Or dishonesty? LOL

    I can literally envision verbal gymnastics worthy of an Olympic athlete in that contorted attempt at speculation.
    You've yet to see any acrobatics. Just wait until the cop is convicted. Then you'll really see some folks lose their collective ****s and tell us how they know better than everyone else how this case should have gone.
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    Re: Video Shows Officer Shooting Unarmed Black Man in South Carolina

    Quote Originally Posted by Deuce View Post
    A guy who has been shot eight times isn't an imminent threat if you plant a discharged taser nearby but out of arm's reach.

    ... I really don't know where you were going with this post. A discharged taser isn't a threat, and a guy on the ground after being shot eight times isn't a threat.
    Yes, *I* know that.

    But one does not lay a dangerous duty weapon, out of one's control, near *anyone*, esp not someone still living. Such things are supposed to be properly secured...not dropped next to suspects.

    And if it was no longer charged (a threat), then the cop obviously knew that some imagined 'retention' of the taser by the suspect meant he was not a threat at all.

    (btw, has the medical examiner said yet how many times he was hit? I know he fired 8 shots...)
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    Re: Video Shows Officer Shooting Unarmed Black Man in South Carolina

    Quote Originally Posted by Lursa View Post
    I wrote the bold earlier. I think the cop was just too lazy to run after him and didnt want to have to restrain such a big guy on his own. But he's trained to do that and if he's afraid to take that risk (then he should quit....too late for that now tho!), then he should have let the guy go and caught him at home, since they had his car and information.

    Cop will not be able to prove the man was a threat to him or other cops or the public. And his dishonesty will be the nail in the coffin.


    He's going down.

    Slager laughed about his 'adrenaline-rush' : Cop Laughed About His Adrenaline Rush After Shooting Walter Scott

    What kind of a person can laugh after shooting and killing someone?

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    Re: Video Shows Officer Shooting Unarmed Black Man in South Carolina

    Quote Originally Posted by shrubnose View Post
    He's going down.

    Slager laughed about his 'adrenaline-rush' : Cop Laughed About His Adrenaline Rush After Shooting Walter Scott

    What kind of a person can laugh after shooting and killing someone?
    Someone who shouldn't be a cop.
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