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    Re: Video Shows Officer Shooting Unarmed Black Man in South Carolina

    Quote Originally Posted by Peter King View Post
    Because what you are saying is totally untrue.
    This is again you making things up.
    No it isn't untrue.


    Quote Originally Posted by Peter King View Post
    He was not taking the taser from him,

    I didn't say he was taking it, I clearly said he had taken it.


    Quote Originally Posted by Peter King View Post
    there is zero evidence to support that,
    Wrong.
    All you are doing is showing you are not paying attention.
    First of all we have the Officers statement that he took it. Whether you like that or not, that is evidence.

    And then we have the visual evidence.
    The Officer's left hand was grabbing the suspect while his other hand was in a downward motion to grab his firearm.
    It is then which we see what is supposedly the taser being thrown in a direction and with force that could not have come from the Officer.
    1. It surely couldn't come from his left hand which was holding on to the suspect.
    2. It surely couldn't have come from his right hand which was in a downward motion to draw his firearm.
    That only leaves one place for it to have come from. Duh! Which corresponds with the direction it is coming from.

    His drawing his firearm at that point supports that is when the suspect had it.

    Why you choose to ignore the evidence is beyond me. but it is a silly thing to do.

    And pay attention to the image.
    It shows that you are wrong. The Officer did not have the taser at that point it was thrown.



    Quote Originally Posted by Peter King View Post
    the taser lines look like they are inside the clothes of the victim so the officer had the taser and shot at him,
    This is irrelevant as that cartridge had already been discharged by the Officer at that point, we already know that. We also know that they both had been on the ground in a struggle.

    We are talking about the point in time when the suspect had the taser.


    Quote Originally Posted by Peter King View Post
    We have rehashed it but you seem to be making your theory up as you go with zero evidence at all.
    Wrong.
    You are the one who made things up.
    I on the other hand showed you the known evidence.


    Quote Originally Posted by Peter King View Post
    The taser no suddenly was thrown by Walter Scott? Then please tell us why where the taser wires going into Walter Scott?
    Wow! you really do not pay attention to the evidence, do you?
    Everybody already knows the cartridge had been fired at that point. Why don't you?


    Quote Originally Posted by Peter King View Post
    Most likely the officer dropped it when he was going for his gun while he was holding on to Scott with his other hand.
    What an absurdly ridiculous assertion.
    His hand was in a downward movement. Do you really not understand that?
    The supposed taser then comes passed him at a velocity and direction that a downward moving hand could not account for.
    It had to have come from the suspect, which corresponds with the direction it comes from.
    To suggest otherwise is total ignorance.


    Quote Originally Posted by Peter King View Post
    This was an illegal shoot and I could care less if you call it murder or homicide (I call it manslaughter because that is what the Dutch title for his actions would be, homicide without premeditation), as long as he is prosecuted and sentenced for his misdeeds.
    No it wasn't and nothing you have provided says it was.
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    Re: Video Shows Officer Shooting Unarmed Black Man in South Carolina

    Quote Originally Posted by Blemonds View Post
    He did that himself when he took off running and subsequently engaged the officer physically. It cannot be denied that had he not run, he would still be alive today.
    If the cop wasn't trolling for quotas by stopping someone for a stupid thing like a center tail light out, he would still be alive today.
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    Re: Video Shows Officer Shooting Unarmed Black Man in South Carolina

    Quote Originally Posted by Peter King View Post
    Also, he has no business picking anything up at all, it is a crime scene and officers should not do anything like that.
    If he is picking up his taser you are wrong.
    It is procedure to secure your weapons.
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    Re: Video Shows Officer Shooting Unarmed Black Man in South Carolina

    Quote Originally Posted by Excon View Post
    This is again you making things up.
    No it isn't untrue.



    I didn't say he was taking it, I clearly said he had taken it.


    Wrong.
    All you are doing is showing you are not paying attention.
    First of all we have the Officers statement that he took it. Whether you like that or not, that is evidence.

    And then we have the visual evidence.
    The Officer's left hand was grabbing the suspect while his other hand was in a downward motion to grab his firearm.
    It is then which we see what is supposedly the taser being thrown in a direction and with force that could not have come from the Officer.
    1. It surely couldn't come from his left hand which was holding on to the suspect.
    2. It surely couldn't have come from his right hand which was in a downward motion to draw his firearm.
    That only leaves one place for it to have come from. Duh! Which corresponds with the direction it is coming from.

    His drawing his firearm at that point supports that is when the suspect had it.

    Why you choose to ignore the evidence is beyond me. but it is a silly thing to do.

    And pay attention to the image.
    It shows that you are wrong. The Officer did not have the taser at that point it was thrown.



    This is irrelevant as that cartridge had already been discharged by the Officer at that point, we already know that. We also know that they both had been on the ground in a struggle.

    We are talking about the point in time when the suspect had the taser.


    Wrong.
    You are the one who made things up.
    I on the other hand showed you the known evidence.



    Wow! you really do not pay attention to the evidence, do you?
    Everybody already knows the cartridge had been fired at that point. Why don't you?


    What an absurdly ridiculous assertion.
    His hand was in a downward movement. Do you really not understand that?
    The supposed taser then comes passed him at a velocity and direction that a downward moving hand could not account for.
    It had to have come from the suspect, which corresponds with the direction it comes from.
    To suggest otherwise is total ignorance.


    No it wasn't and nothing you have provided says it was.
    Very informative post. You've created plenty of reasonable doubt in my mind. I haven't stopped to examine the evidence as closely as you. Thank you for providing this analysis. I will be following this case more closely.

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    Re: Video Shows Officer Shooting Unarmed Black Man in South Carolina

    Quote Originally Posted by Excon View Post
    If he is picking up his taser you are wrong.
    It is procedure to secure your weapons.
    Correct. That's a big factor as a lot of people don't know that. Can't have an accomplice or civilian securing the weapon before you (officer).

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    Re: Video Shows Officer Shooting Unarmed Black Man in South Carolina

    Quote Originally Posted by 11Bravo View Post
    Very informative post. You've created plenty of reasonable doubt in my mind. I haven't stopped to examine the evidence as closely as you. Thank you for providing this analysis. I will be following this case more closely.
    Thank you.
    While the arguments are mine, the supportive visual information like the image in that post comes from someone else who is obviously of similar thought.
    It was found at the Conservativetreehouse and they deserve the credit for that.
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    Re: Video Shows Officer Shooting Unarmed Black Man in South Carolina

    Quote Originally Posted by beefheart View Post
    Now comes the empty cognitive dissonance. You don't get to decide "decency" nor should the cop have decided with a summary execution. Shame on you for this post.
    Actually, I do get to decide decency. It isn't even that difficult. Shame on others for ignoring actual evidence and jumping to conclusions

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    Re: Video Shows Officer Shooting Unarmed Black Man in South Carolina

    Quote Originally Posted by Blemonds View Post
    Actually, I do get to decide decency. It isn't even that difficult. Shame on others for ignoring actual evidence and jumping to conclusions
    Nothing he did that day should have led to him being shot in the back by a cop. End of story.

    You want a police state? There are plenty of them in the world.
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    Re: Video Shows Officer Shooting Unarmed Black Man in South Carolina

    Quote Originally Posted by beefheart View Post
    If the cop wasn't trolling for quotas by stopping someone for a stupid thing like a center tail light out, he would still be alive today.
    The law in S.C. allows for such a stop, so take it up with the lawmakers. More importantly, such stops nab people with outstanding warrants, such as in this case. Simple concept, if Scott obeyed the law, he would be alive today.

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    Re: Video Shows Officer Shooting Unarmed Black Man in South Carolina

    Quote Originally Posted by beefheart View Post
    Nothing he did that day should have led to him being shot in the back by a cop. End of story.

    You want a police state? There are plenty of them in the world.
    That's arguable. It remains that he sealed his own fate when he chose a criminal act rather than a legal act

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