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    Re: Video Shows Officer Shooting Unarmed Black Man in South Carolina

    It remains unclear whether Scott took the taser. What is clear is that he was running away and that he was shot in the back eight times. The officer could have pursued the much older man and subdued him without shooting him in the back. Yes, Scott made some bad life choices and should have paid his child support and fixed the vehicle's light. This doesn't justify shooting him in the back eight times.

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    Re: Video Shows Officer Shooting Unarmed Black Man in South Carolina

    Quote Originally Posted by Excon View Post
    You have to hash it first to rehash it, which you definitely have not done.
    All you have done is make things up, and assume.


    It is not reasonable suspicion. It is probable cause to believe. Different standards.

    And again. The suspect taking the taser satisfies the requirement. You haven't been able to refute that, nor could you.


    Trial?
    It hasn't even gotten past the Grand Jury point yet.

    South Carolina shooting case will head to a grand jury
    South Carolina shooting case will head to a grand jury - LA Times


    That is not a fact. This is you making things up.


    Irrelevant. And just shows how weak your arguments are.


    Wrong.
    His taking the taser made him a significant threat.


    Wrong.


    Responding appropriately to a threat is not brutality.



    This absurd comment just shows that you are not even qualified to be speaking on this subject.
    You do not fire warning shots.



    As you are the one ignoring reality, it is your problem, not mine.
    The moment the suspect took the taser he became a significant threat.
    You can not refute that.


    In this case your statement is wrong.
    The suspect was a significant threat as soon as he took the taser. As such, the Officers response is defensible.
    You still haven't been able to refute that.


    Yay! Finally, admittance you are assuming.


    No it wasn't at his feet.
    And again.
    The Officer is drawing his firearm while the suspect has the taser.


    No, you are wrong and your comments are nonsense as shown.
    You still have failed to refute the actual evidence.
    The suspect was a significant threat as soon as he took the taser. It is that threat to which the Officer was responding. Saying otherwise is ludicrous.


    If you think that why have you been arguing murder and execution? Do you not know they are not the same things as manslaughter?
    Or did you change your mind? If not, why the heck have you been arguing with me? Did you not see what I said in my second post?


    That black thing was likely the tazer that the guy took as reported by the Officer.

    At the moment of the shooting it doesn't appear as the Officer knew he threw it down.
    If so, this would indicate that the Officer (in his mind) was responding to an actual threat.

    That information and whether he moved the tazer after the fact and why, may be the difference between manslaughter or involuntary manslaughter and that of a murder conviction.
    We have rehashed it but you seem to be making your theory up as you go with zero evidence at all.

    The taser no suddenly was thrown by Walter Scott? Then please tell us why where the taser wires going into Walter Scott? Most likely the officer dropped it when he was going for his gun while he was holding on to Scott with his other hand. It is very difficult to hold and taser and get your gun out while you are holding on to the suspect with your other hand.

    https://youtu.be/qoMSb7UH1Go

    This was an illegal shoot and I could care less if you call it murder or homicide (I call it manslaughter because that is what the Dutch title for his actions would be, homicide without premeditation), as long as he is prosecuted and sentenced for his misdeeds.
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    Re: Video Shows Officer Shooting Unarmed Black Man in South Carolina

    I'm sure I'll be corrected if mistaken, LOL, but here I think this is second-degree murder, unpremeditated murder.

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    Re: Video Shows Officer Shooting Unarmed Black Man in South Carolina

    Quote Originally Posted by Blemonds View Post
    It's homicide, but more likely manslaughter than murder. And you're confusing imminent threat with heat of the moment. A jury likely will have better understanding of the difference

    That hasn't been determined. What he picked up and why will come out later
    Really? Then please tell me what he is picking up here?

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    Re: Video Shows Officer Shooting Unarmed Black Man in South Carolina

    Quote Originally Posted by Peter King View Post
    Really? Then please tell me what he is picking up here?

    https://youtu.be/cN6kXRM3g7I
    I don't know what he's picking up. Video analysts will have to determine this?

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    Re: Video Shows Officer Shooting Unarmed Black Man in South Carolina

    Quote Originally Posted by nota bene View Post
    I don't know what he's picking up. Video analysts will have to determine this?
    There are not a whole lot of things he is going to put back into his belt (at least that is what it looks like) at that side of his belt. It is not his gun because that is on the side we can see, it is not his handcuffs because they are still on the victim. Not a lot of other things can be found at that particular spot.

    Also, he has no business picking anything up at all, it is a crime scene and officers should not do anything like that.
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    Re: Video Shows Officer Shooting Unarmed Black Man in South Carolina

    Quote Originally Posted by Peter King View Post
    Really? Then please tell me what he is picking up here?

    https://youtu.be/cN6kXRM3g7I
    I can't tell you what he picked up because the video isn't clear enough to identify the object. More importantly, I can't tell you WHY he picked it up.

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    Re: Video Shows Officer Shooting Unarmed Black Man in South Carolina

    Quote Originally Posted by nota bene View Post
    I don't know what he's picking up. Video analysts will have to determine this?
    It sure looks like his taser. CBS interviewed an FBI video expert who says when he analyses he tries to give the cops the benefit of the doubt. But in this case the cop moved evidence at murder scene which corrupts everything. So the expert says it is his taser and he's finished.
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    Re: Video Shows Officer Shooting Unarmed Black Man in South Carolina

    Quote Originally Posted by Blemonds View Post
    I can't tell you what he picked up because the video isn't clear enough to identify the object. More importantly, I can't tell you WHY he picked it up.
    I think he moved his taser in order to corroborate his story. That's bad.
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    Re: Video Shows Officer Shooting Unarmed Black Man in South Carolina

    Quote Originally Posted by Blemonds View Post
    If the victim had any decency to his character, he would still be alive today. And nobody has justified the cops actions. It's merely a clarification that it is unlikely his actions rise to the level of murder in the legal sense
    Now comes the empty cognitive dissonance. You don't get to decide "decency" nor should the cop have decided with a summary execution. Shame on you for this post.
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