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    Re: Video Shows Officer Shooting Unarmed Black Man in South Carolina

    Quote Originally Posted by Lursa View Post
    And what # of those misses did hit bystanders? And how many weapon discharges happened inside or towards buildings or cars where the HPs would indeed save innocent lives?

    I remember that one incident outside the Empire State Building a few yrs ago...that was outside and like 9 bystanders were hit One does pray that's an aberration but I dont know. Cops do miss alot. IMO the Empire State incident was a training problem, not a shooting problem. But HPs help protect anyone with some sort of barrier between the cops and them.
    A fair and excellent question. Its a shame the government doesn't keep these kinds of statistics so we could objectively decide which is the better bullet.
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    Re: Video Shows Officer Shooting Unarmed Black Man in South Carolina

    Quote Originally Posted by csbrown28 View Post
    No I'm saying that wounds caused by FMJ's are less devastating, which is why we don't use them in war.
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    From a warfare point of view, a wounded soldier who is incapacitated is better than a dead soldier as the wounded require men and resources to care for.
    I've read this before. Not sure I buy that it's still relevant today, at least to the extent it was in the past. Esp. against non-regimented and formal military fighters like in the ME. (with less medic support)
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    Re: Video Shows Officer Shooting Unarmed Black Man in South Carolina

    Quote Originally Posted by disneydude View Post
    Has it ever occurred to you that perhaps the reason why Politifact issues more "pants on fire" to Republicans than Democrats is because maybe....just maybe.....Republicans tend to tell more lies?

    I am sure according to your true beliefs, that it must be true. as neither a republican or a democrat, I can tell you it seems about the same to me, surely not "9 times" in either direction.


    I'm sure that you probably wouldn't give that any consideration and would dismiss anything that doesn't fit your right-wing world view.
    you "the right wingerz r teh lairz"

    me "seems from my libertarian viewpoint the repulicans and democrats lie about the same, and often"


    but hey, 9 times man republicans must lie 9 times as much. Are you for real? /facepalm


    Sorry...but politifact calls it and disses on left-wing as well as right-wing. You can dismiss them all you want it doesn't change the facts.
    I gave you the evidence, if you want to suggest that because they have "fact" in thier name that makes it so, there is nothing I can do to change your naivety on the matter.


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    Re: Video Shows Officer Shooting Unarmed Black Man in South Carolina

    Quote Originally Posted by Geoist View Post
    Someone was obviously yanking your chain.


    No, I am serious, almost what 30 years ago, 98% on the test, was told flat out I wasn't black or a woman, so "sorry"....


    Dinkins expanded the plan after that as well.
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    Re: Video Shows Officer Shooting Unarmed Black Man in South Carolina

    Quote Originally Posted by ReverendHellh0und View Post
    No, I am serious, almost what 30 years ago, 98% on the test, was told flat out I wasn't black or a woman, so "sorry"....


    Dinkins expanded the plan after that as well.
    Very true. At that time I worked for a large company and was told that we white guys would be slowed down in terms of career advancement in favor of minorities and blacks. I resigned and went into business for myself. Best move I ever made.

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    Re: Video Shows Officer Shooting Unarmed Black Man in South Carolina

    Quote Originally Posted by csbrown28 View Post
    Bizarre rules of war have been in place since CNN started beaming back real time video from the front lines.

    There are few things more ubiquitous on the right than blaming Obama for virtually anything and everything. Coffee shortage, it's Obama, school lunch pizza takes like ****-on-a-shingle, it's Obama's fault, Miley Cyrus miss her period, Obama's fault.

    Frankly I think it's comical.
    It is a 'what goes around, comes around' type of deal. The left was blaming Bush because he was not directly over-seeing the night-crew at Abu Ghraib. And the s*%t they are serving at school lunches is can be directly blamed on the Mooch.
    The Gruber-crat is strong in this one!

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    Re: Video Shows Officer Shooting Unarmed Black Man in South Carolina

    Quote Originally Posted by flogger View Post
    Probably just another gun nut where the use of firearms is envied admired and fetishised at any and every opportunity

    This is a peculiarly American phenomenon
    Less a gun nut and more of a "cops never do anything bad" nut...

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    Re: Video Shows Officer Shooting Unarmed Black Man in South Carolina

    Quote Originally Posted by flogger View Post
    Probably just another gun nut where the use of firearms is envied admired and fetishised at any and every opportunity

    This is a peculiarly American phenomenon



    That's dumb... We gun owners for the vast majority of us, are for strong police reform and cringe at things like this video.

    It is wrong on so many levels.
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    Re: Video Shows Officer Shooting Unarmed Black Man in South Carolina

    Quote Originally Posted by SenorXm/Sirius View Post
    With this video and the 3 major lies this cop told? He'd be very smart if he takes a plea, and gets put into solitary for 5-7 years. when he gets out everyone will have forgot about it, and he'll still have some of his life to live.. But if he fights it, and it goes to trail, that will piss people off, on both sides. Then he gets convicted and gets a 15-25 year sentence his life is going to be even more of a hell.
    Then I hope he fights it and loses.

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    Re: Video Shows Officer Shooting Unarmed Black Man in South Carolina

    Quote Originally Posted by Lursa View Post
    Honestly? I dont. I think he deserves some level of a murder charge. His decision and actions were deliberate and the *personal* impression I get from the video is that he just couldnt be bothered to run after the man and restrain him. He (dead guy) was a big guy, it would have been a PIA probably, with some risk as in any physical encounter however cops are trained and expected to do deal with this.

    So just *my* impression from the video is a complete disregard for a life and a lazy POS cop that couldnt be bothered to do his job properly.
    What angers me most is that he tried (as least that was how it looks to me) to pervert the course of justice by moving the taser to make his story of having to defend himself with lethal force legally acceptable. Luckily he was being filmed so his dishonest behavior was documented for all of us to see.
    toward that end the tactics and the strategies that people resort to in carrying out this ideologically driven agenda of what they call “pro-life” which is really pro-fetus does not have anything to do with the lives of babies after they’re born or the women who bear them.

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