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    Re: Video Shows Officer Shooting Unarmed Black Man in South Carolina

    Quote Originally Posted by gdgyva View Post
    charges with murder

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    and did i say he wasnt guilty?

    but i do like to hear and read all the evidence before i make up my mind....no matter how guilty one may appear
    He isn't guilty. He is innocent until proven guilty. Gotta wait for the court. Regardless of how damning the evidence is. The court of idiotic public opinion is what will do away with a fair trial if we aren't careful.
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    Re: Video Shows Officer Shooting Unarmed Black Man in South Carolina

    Quote Originally Posted by Geoist View Post
    Ferguson isn't the exception to the rule.




    I didn't say all. But there is a notably racist culture within many of our nation's police departments. LAPD, Maricopa County, and NYPD are notorious examples.



    You need to back this up with evidence.
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    Re: Video Shows Officer Shooting Unarmed Black Man in South Carolina

    Quote Originally Posted by stonewall50 View Post
    If he is fired I don't believe he can be represented by a union lawyer. Seems it is the right move if that is the case.
    JUst saying ...
    If that is the case it would be wrong because he was an Officer when the incidnent happened.
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    Re: Video Shows Officer Shooting Unarmed Black Man in South Carolina

    Quote Originally Posted by Excon View Post
    Kelly Thomas was not beaten to death.
    It was the combined weight of the Officers need to subdue him that compressed his chest causing an inability to breath.
    Yes, the chest compressions ultimately killed him, and the beatings were "contributing factors." No need to mince words.

    The coroner's death certificate lists the manner of death as homicide and the cause of death as asphyxia caused by "mechanical chest compression with blunt cranial-facial injuries sustained during physical altercation with law enforcement."
    http://www.ocregister.com/articles/t...ackauckas.html

    The man was beaten to death.

    And what do you mean combined weight "needed" to subdue him? If they need more than two or three officers to subdue and handcuff a suspect then they need to find better officers.
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    Re: Video Shows Officer Shooting Unarmed Black Man in South Carolina

    Quote Originally Posted by Geoist View Post
    Yes, the chest compressions ultimately killed him, and the beatings were "contributing factors." No need to mince words and get all specific on cause of death. The man was beaten to death.
    This was already argued, and no they actually were not "contributing factors".
    He was not beaten to death. None of those impact injuries he received from resiting affected his ability to breath.

    His resistance caused the need for multiple Officers to subdue him. It was that weight of the multiple Officers which compressed his chest.
    It is also why they were cleared as they should have been.


    Quote Originally Posted by Geoist View Post
    And what do you mean combined weight "needed" to subdue him? If they need more than two or three officers to subdue and handcuff a suspect then they need to find better officers.
    If everybody acted peacefully you may have had a point, but in reality you do not and what you said was lame.
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    Re: Video Shows Officer Shooting Unarmed Black Man in South Carolina

    Quote Originally Posted by Excon View Post


    There you go again engaged in make believe.
    No, I am seeing what is obvious for most of us to see it seems but you? Talk about make belief

    Quote Originally Posted by Excon View Post
    Has this been confirmed, or are you still operating on what you want to believe?
    It ought to be obvious for every single person who saw the video.

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    Yes really.
    Do you not understand what you yourself quoted?
    I understand exactly what I quoted, do you? Because you seem to be totally unable to understand that just escaping is not enough for shooting to kill. For someone to shoot an escaping suspect, there has to be a situation in which the fleeing suspect (with his back turned to the officer, flapping his hands by his side and unarmed) which is what we have here but there also has to be another thing that the situation has to comply with before deadly force is allowed:

    probable cause to believe that the suspect poses a significant threat of death or serious physical injury to the officer or others
    and every sensible person understand that in this situation that never ever ever is the case. He was unarmed, posed no significant threat at the time the officer started shooting!

    Quote Originally Posted by Excon View Post
    In this case the guy had taken the Officers taser.
    At the point the Officer was reacting he had "probable cause to believe that the suspect" posed "a significant threat of death or serious physical injury".
    Matters not that the guy threw it down.
    1. it does matter that the tazer had fallen to the ground
    2. the man was not struggling with the officer at the moment the officer started pulling the gun
    3. at the time the first shot is fired the suspect was even further away posing ZERO threat to the officer
    4. he shot a man in the back with 8 bullets for a busted tail light stop
    5. he picked up evidence to pervert the course of justice
    6. the man needs to be prosecuted for the crime he committed.

    Sorry, but if there is nonsense posted here, it is what you claim was happening.

    Quote Originally Posted by Excon View Post
    And btw, upon analysis the two can be seen to be in a scuffle on the ground prior to being upright.


    The guy was resisting arrest on his warrant, was combative, and took the Officers taser.
    1. guy was far away
    2. guy was no danger
    3. bad shooting, guy arrested, fired and hopefully going to jail for at least manslaughter.
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    Re: Video Shows Officer Shooting Unarmed Black Man in South Carolina

    Quote Originally Posted by Excon View Post
    This was already argued, and no they actually were not "contributing factors".
    Coroner disagrees with you.

    His resistance caused the need for multiple Officers to subdue him. It was that weight of the multiple Officers which compressed his chest.
    It is also why they were cleared as they should have been.
    BS. Whatever resistance he gave did not require a 10 minute assault with fists and a Taser. Also, an officer who says, "See these fists? They are going to f*** you up!" is clearly an officer who is looking to act in a violent and irrational way.



    If everybody acted peacefully you may have had a point,
    You still miss the point. No amount of resistance to arrest justifies this:

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    but in reality you do not and what you said was lame.
    What is lame is your apologist attitude towards police brutality. Actually, lame is too kind of a word. More like disgusting.
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    Re: Video Shows Officer Shooting Unarmed Black Man in South Carolina



    I stopped at the first one:


    “Michael Brown learned a lesson about a messin’
    With a badass policeman
    And he’s bad, bad Michael Brown
    Baddest thug in the whole damn town
    Badder than old King Kong
    Meaner than a junkyard dog.

    Two men took to fightin’
    And Michael punched in through the door
    And Michael looked like some old Swiss cheese
    His brain was splattered on the floor

    And he’s dead, dead Michael Brown
    Deadest man in the whole damn town
    His whole life’s long gone
    Deader than a roadkill dog.”



    how is that racist?
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    Re: Video Shows Officer Shooting Unarmed Black Man in South Carolina

    Quote Originally Posted by ReverendHellh0und View Post
    I stopped at the first one:

    how is that racist?
    I see it as subtly racist and blatantly in poor taste. If you don't want to see it as racist then fine. Why not look at the other links? You asked for them and I went out of my way to provide them for you.
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