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    Re: Video Shows Officer Shooting Unarmed Black Man in South Carolina

    Quote Originally Posted by Geoist View Post
    Which is why I think there would have been an investigation. But, in the end, by planting the taser next to the body he could argue the man was armed and therefore a threat. I could definitely see a jury acquitting him if it got as far as a trial.
    True, but even a jury would have a hard time believing a taser that's how many feet away is an imminent threat. And the number of shots he took would also work against him.
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    Re: Video Shows Officer Shooting Unarmed Black Man in South Carolina

    Quote Originally Posted by Geoist View Post
    The chief could have put the guy on desk duty until "all the information is released" as they tend to do. No, it was clear this officer killed in cold blood and planted evidence immediately after. I don't know the chief or what motivated him, I can only go by what was reported.




    How exactly did Ferguson PD make Darren Wilson appear guilty?



    Hope its 2nd degree murder but I agree, it will probably be manslaughter.

    Thank God for that video though. Without it he probably would have been acquitted (if charges were ever brought against him).
    I agree with you. Good move to fire him. The video is too damning. This video shows him killing an unarmed man attempting to flee, rather than radioing in a suspect on foot- since he's unarmed. Do we know the WHOLE story? No. But that's enough for the cop to lose his job. What a coward.

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    Re: Video Shows Officer Shooting Unarmed Black Man in South Carolina

    Quote Originally Posted by solletica View Post
    Cops are not civilians; they're armed agents of the local govt. Armed govt. agents should never have the same rights as the People. To allow them the same rights compromises freedoms.
    wrong, cops are civilians unless they are military police and they are accountable in CIVILIAN COURT not military court. The rest of your comment is beyond silly. Of course civilians should have the same rights as other civilians and police officers, like Judges, Prosecutors, medical examiners, fire marshals, DEA agents, FBI Agents, poultry inspectors, Postal inspectors, IRS Criminal Investigation Division agents etc have additional "powers" that other civilians do not have
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    Re: Video Shows Officer Shooting Unarmed Black Man in South Carolina

    Quote Originally Posted by Geoist View Post
    Or beaten to death, like in the case of Kelly Thomas.




    Racism is a major problem within our police departments.


    I don't disagree about ferguson, but you can't apply one to all.
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    Re: Video Shows Officer Shooting Unarmed Black Man in South Carolina

    Quote Originally Posted by Peter King View Post
    A man running from you with no weapons is not a danger to you or anybody else and shooting him down like this is illegal, unlawful, immoral and wrong, wronger and totally and utterly devoid of any defensibility whatsoever.


    There you go again engaged in make believe.


    Quote Originally Posted by Peter King View Post
    But walking back, picking up the tazer and throwing it beside the dying man,
    Has this been confirmed, or are you still operating on what you want to believe?



    Quote Originally Posted by Peter King View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by j-mac View Post
    the SCOTUS has upheld that police are justified in shooting a fleeing suspect.
    Really? Because from what I just read in Tennessee v. Garner from 1985 the SCOTUS held the opinion upright that:

    This case requires us to determine the constitutionality of the use of deadly force to prevent the escape of an apparently unarmed suspected felon. We conclude that such force may not be used unless it is necessary to prevent the escape and the officer has probable cause to believe that the suspect poses a significant threat of death or serious physical injury to the officer or others.
    https://supreme.justia.com/cases/fed...71/1/case.html
    Yes really.
    Do you not understand what you yourself quoted?


    In this case the guy had taken the Officers taser.
    At the point the Officer was reacting he had "probable cause to believe that the suspect" posed "a significant threat of death or serious physical injury".
    Matters not that the guy threw it down.



    And btw, upon analysis the two can be seen to be in a scuffle on the ground prior to being upright.


    The guy was resisting arrest on his warrant, was combative, and took the Officers taser.
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    Re: Video Shows Officer Shooting Unarmed Black Man in South Carolina

    Quote Originally Posted by Montecresto View Post
    Dude!!!!!!! He's been charged with MURDER, by the guys holding the evidence. Never mind that he was black. If this was the same video but the man was White, the pos cop is a murderer. And he's been charged with murder because of it.
    charges with murder

    do charges sometimes change?

    and did i say he wasnt guilty?

    but i do like to hear and read all the evidence before i make up my mind....no matter how guilty one may appear
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    Re: Video Shows Officer Shooting Unarmed Black Man in South Carolina

    Quote Originally Posted by Geoist View Post
    Or beaten to death, like in the case of Kelly Thomas.
    Kelly Thomas was not beaten to death.
    It was the combined weight of the Officers need to subdue him that compressed his chest causing an inability to breath.
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    Re: Video Shows Officer Shooting Unarmed Black Man in South Carolina

    Quote Originally Posted by tres borrachos View Post
    True, but even a jury would have a hard time believing a taser that's how many feet away is an imminent threat.
    Police have gotten away with less than that.

    And the number of shots he took would also work against him.
    Well the defense would certainly have used that against him. It probably wouldn't have mattered. When you fire your gun your intent is to kill or "eliminate the threat." Doesn't matter whether it was 1 shot or 100 shots.
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    Re: Video Shows Officer Shooting Unarmed Black Man in South Carolina

    Quote Originally Posted by ReverendHellh0und View Post
    I don't disagree about ferguson,
    Ferguson isn't the exception to the rule.


    but you can't apply one to all.
    I didn't say all. But there is a notably racist culture within many of our nation's police departments. LAPD, Maricopa County, and NYPD are notorious examples.
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    Re: Video Shows Officer Shooting Unarmed Black Man in South Carolina

    Quote Originally Posted by Geoist View Post
    The chief could have put the guy on desk duty until "all the information is released" as they tend to do. No, it was clear this officer killed in cold blood and planted evidence immediately after. I don't know the chief or what motivated him, I can only go by what was reported.




    How exactly did Ferguson PD make Darren Wilson appear guilty?



    Hope its 2nd degree murder but I agree, it will probably be manslaughter.

    Thank God for that video though. Without it he probably would have been acquitted (if charges were ever brought against him).
    If he is fired I don't believe he can be represented by a union lawyer. Seems it is the right move if that is the case.
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