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    Re: Video Shows Officer Shooting Unarmed Black Man in South Carolina

    Quote Originally Posted by disneydude View Post
    Blacks can be racists too.


    so, if a black man is killed, no matter what, or who's involved, it;s "racist"?
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    Re: Video Shows Officer Shooting Unarmed Black Man in South Carolina

    Quote Originally Posted by ReverendHellh0und View Post
    so, if a black man is killed, no matter what, or who's involved, it;s "racist"?
    No necessarily...but anyone who thinks that there is not a strong vein of racism that infects the police force of pretty much every major city in America is fooling themselves.
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    Re: Video Shows Officer Shooting Unarmed Black Man in South Carolina

    Quote Originally Posted by ttwtt78640 View Post
    That is an interesting caveat that you chose to include, implying that being armed (alone?) makes someone threatening. Does that mean that it is OK (legal according to you) to shoot an armed fleeing suspect in the back?
    A man running from you with no weapons is not a danger to you or anybody else and shooting him down like this is illegal, unlawful, immoral and wrong, wronger and totally and utterly devoid of any defensibility whatsoever.

    And an armed suspect can be a danger to you or other officers/other people, so yes, shooting to kill might be reasonable at that point.
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    Re: Video Shows Officer Shooting Unarmed Black Man in South Carolina

    Quote Originally Posted by ttwtt78640 View Post
    You seem to be terribly confused. This was not a matter of police rights or even SC police policy; it was considered not only grounds for the officer's immediate termination but for criminal murder charges.
    Your law enforcement has a track record of using disproportionate lethal response to petty offences and then getting away with it . This guy got unlucky by being filmed when doing so. How many others like him are equally culpable of such excesses and weren't filmed ?
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    Re: Video Shows Officer Shooting Unarmed Black Man in South Carolina

    Quote Originally Posted by disneydude View Post
    No necessarily...but anyone who thinks that there is not a strong vein of racism that infects the police force of pretty much every major city in America is fooling themselves.

    It's foolish to suspect racism whenever a black man is killed.
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    Re: Video Shows Officer Shooting Unarmed Black Man in South Carolina

    Quote Originally Posted by Peter King View Post
    A man running from you with no weapons is not a danger to you or anybody else and shooting him down like this is illegal, unlawful, immoral and wrong, wronger and totally and utterly devoid of any defensibility whatsoever.

    And an armed suspect can be a danger to you or other officers/other people, so yes, shooting to kill might be reasonable at that point.
    This even went to the Supreme Court which ruled that the fleeing person must be posing an imminent threat to the officer or any other person. Knowing as things stood he was wrong, the officer immediately went back to the spot where his taser lay, retrieved it and took it over to the deceased and dropped it by him for alibi. There's no telling how often in history this type of thing has occurred, but people walking around with cameras are proving to be a thorn in the side of law enforcement.
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    Re: Video Shows Officer Shooting Unarmed Black Man in South Carolina

    Quote Originally Posted by Montecresto View Post
    This even went to the Supreme Court which ruled that the fleeing person must be posing an imminent threat to the officer or any other person. Knowing as things stood he was wrong, the officer immediately went back to the spot where his taser lay, retrieved it and took it over to the deceased and dropped it by him for alibi. There's no telling how often in history this type of thing has occurred, but people walking around with cameras are proving to be a thorn in the side of law enforcement.
    And that is what is the more reprehensible thing this officer did. The shooting was terrible but might have been explained (but not as a defense to prevent punishment) by the officer claiming he was stressed and doing things on pure adreneline/auto pilot. But walking back, picking up the tazer and throwing it beside the dying man, that is pure wickedness IMHO, totally immoral and an attempt to cover up his murderous shooting of that unarmed man.
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    Re: Video Shows Officer Shooting Unarmed Black Man in South Carolina

    Quote Originally Posted by ReverendHellh0und View Post
    It's foolish to suspect racism whenever a black man is killed.
    Why? When a disproportionate number of black men are shot and killed by law enforcement....if would say that you are foolish to to at least suspect it.
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    Re: Video Shows Officer Shooting Unarmed Black Man in South Carolina

    Quote Originally Posted by Peter King View Post
    Really? Because from what I just read in Tennessee v. Garner from 1985 the SCOTUS held the opinion upright that:



    https://supreme.justia.com/cases/fed...71/1/case.html

    And in this case the suspect was not a felon. He was running and if the officer ran after him over an open field there was an excellent chance of capturing him (with another officer coming onto the scene shortly after the shooting) so it was not even about preventing an escape.
    I know it may be obvious, and I'm not arguing for the officer, god knows I think what he did was wrong, but the important thing is, " officer has probable cause to believe that the suspect poses a significant threat of death or serious physical injury to the officer or others."

    The officer has to demonstrate the he had probable cause to BELIEVE that Mr. Scott was a significant threat to other officers or society.

    For example, if the dispatcher mistakenly told the officer that the Mr. Scott was a convinced felon who was wanted for (insert heinous crime here), then Mr. Scott would at the very least have a defense. Now not that I think that is the case, I'm just pointing out that the reality isn't the standard by which we will judge the officer, it is what the officer reasonably believed to be true.
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    Re: Video Shows Officer Shooting Unarmed Black Man in South Carolina

    Quote Originally Posted by reinoe View Post
    But the man did have a gun. The officer put on the police report "he tried to take my gun" and then planted the tazer on him. That's the retro-active proof.
    Trying to take someones weapon is justification for shooting I agree, but only when they are trying to take the gun. When Mr. Scott was shot, he was fleeing and didn't have a gun.
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