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    Re: Video Shows Officer Shooting Unarmed Black Man in South Carolina

    Quote Originally Posted by JoeTrumps View Post
    knowing few facts other than the video I will still give the cop the benefit of the doubt until I hear more.

    the man killed had an arrest warrant out for him. Don't we need to know if the warrant was for a violent crime(or worse) before we call the man innocent?

    don't jump to conclusions like some did on Ferguson only to end up with egg on their face.
    Oh dear God. I can see it now. "his facebook page shows him smoking pot. He's not an 'innocent' person" defense for the cop... looks to be already forming.

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    Re: Video Shows Officer Shooting Unarmed Black Man in South Carolina

    Quote Originally Posted by JoeTrumps View Post
    knowing few facts other than the video I will still give the cop the benefit of the doubt until I hear more.

    the man killed had an arrest warrant out for him. Don't we need to know if the warrant was for a violent crime(or worse) before we call the man innocent?

    don't jump to conclusions like some did on Ferguson only to end up with egg on their face.
    All that matters is what the officer reasonably believed to be true, thus if Walker did have warrants for murder but the officer didn't know at the point he shot Walker, then the warrant would be irrelevant regardless of what it was for, likewise, if the dispatcher had mistakenly told the officer that he had warrants for murder, but Walker , in fact, did not, then you could make the argument he had sufficient justification to shoot. Having said that, I believe the warrants (at least some of them) were for unpaid child support, but don't quote me on that.
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    Re: Video Shows Officer Shooting Unarmed Black Man in South Carolina

    Quote Originally Posted by JoeTrumps View Post
    knowing few facts other than the video I will still give the cop the benefit of the doubt until I hear more.

    the man killed had an arrest warrant out for him. Don't we need to know if the warrant was for a violent crime(or worse) before we call the man innocent?

    don't jump to conclusions like some did on Ferguson only to end up with egg on their face.
    Warrants are based upon probable cause, but do not have any bearing on guilt or innocence.

    That is why courts exist.

    He is innocent until proven otherwise, period.

    His warrants, BTW, were for non-payment of child support, not that it matters.
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    Re: Video Shows Officer Shooting Unarmed Black Man in South Carolina

    Quote Originally Posted by csbrown28 View Post
    All that matters is what the officer reasonably believed to be true, thus if Walker did have warrants for murder but the officer didn't know at the point he shot Walker, then the warrant would be irrelevant regardless of what it was for, likewise, if the dispatcher had mistakenly told the officer that he had warrants for murder, but Walker , in fact, did not, then you could make the argument he had sufficient justification to shoot. Having said that, I believe the warrants (at least some of them) were for unpaid child support, but don't quote me on that.
    Even with a warrant for murder, the actor is a suspect, and innocent under the law until proven otherwise.
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    Re: Video Shows Officer Shooting Unarmed Black Man in South Carolina

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    Re: Video Shows Officer Shooting Unarmed Black Man in South Carolina

    Quote Originally Posted by SMTA View Post
    Warrants are based upon probable cause, but do not have any bearing on guilt or innocence.

    That is why courts exist.

    He is innocent until proven otherwise, period.

    His warrants, BTW, were for non-payment of child support, not that it matters.
    Rather than arresting and jailing this guy for his warrants (now no longer possible due to an incurable condition named shot in the back by cop), they should have seized his car (a mercedes with blingy wheels) and sold that for the outstanding child support.
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    Re: Video Shows Officer Shooting Unarmed Black Man in South Carolina

    Quote Originally Posted by JoeTrumps View Post
    knowing few facts other than the video I will still give the cop the benefit of the doubt until I hear more.

    the man killed had an arrest warrant out for him. Don't we need to know if the warrant was for a violent crime(or worse) before we call the man innocent?

    don't jump to conclusions like some did on Ferguson only to end up with egg on their face.
    Unarmed, running away and no danger whatsoever to the officer and being shot from a considerable distance in the back with 8 bullets. That is all we need to know when it comes to this case.

    Even if he had been a violent offender in his past, there is no need to gun an unarmed man in the back like that.
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    Re: Video Shows Officer Shooting Unarmed Black Man in South Carolina

    Quote Originally Posted by Peter King View Post
    Unarmed, running away and no danger whatsoever to the officer and being shot from a considerable distance in the back with 8 bullets. That is all we need to know when it comes to this case.

    Even if he had been a violent offender in his past, there is no need to gun an unarmed man in the back like that.
    Let me just say that I don't think this officer was justified in killing this man.

    With that said, Peter, do you really believe that people should just be able to get physical with cops, then run and get away with no consequences? Really?

    You might as well just declare law dead, and open season.
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    Re: Video Shows Officer Shooting Unarmed Black Man in South Carolina

    Quote Originally Posted by j-mac View Post
    Let me just say that I don't think this officer was justified in killing this man.

    With that said, Peter, do you really believe that people should just be able to get physical with cops, then run and get away with no consequences? Really?

    You might as well just declare law dead, and open season.
    The job of the police is arresting someone, not being judge and jury.

    And trying to get away from a cop should not lead to gunning down. Police officers in countless countries around the world and in loads of cities in the US can deal with a suspect running away from them after pulling free from an officer without using a gun, much less kill them.

    I am very pro-police officer safety but then their safety has to be in danger, not like in this case.
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    Re: Video Shows Officer Shooting Unarmed Black Man in South Carolina

    Quote Originally Posted by j-mac View Post
    Let me just say that I don't think this officer was justified in killing this man.

    With that said, Peter, do you really believe that people should just be able to get physical with cops, then run and get away with no consequences? Really?

    You might as well just declare law dead, and open season.
    There is consequences for assaulting a law enforcement officer. You can do time in jail and fined. The officer does not have the right to be the judge and decide the punishment.

    Unfortunately we do not have the initial interaction of the two men. There was no reason for the person with the video camera to film just an ordinary traffic stop. The victim is dead and has the word of the police officer is not reliable at all. For a broken tail light offense this sure got offensive for some reason. Did one of the two men have a badass attitude or did they both have a badass attitude?
    The only thing we have is this video and the officer's demeanor is very damaging to his case.

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