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    Re: Video Shows Officer Shooting Unarmed Black Man in South Carolina

    some people never learn. I'm not saying the cop isn't guilty, but you people jumped to conclusions on Ferguson and you are still wiping egg off your collective(lib) faces.

    let's just wait for all the facts to come out before we start warming up the freedom buses. k?

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    Re: Video Shows Officer Shooting Unarmed Black Man in South Carolina

    Quote Originally Posted by VanceMack View Post
    The law says police CAN shoot unarmed fleeing suspects but only if they represent a clear and present danger to society. Example would be a serial rapist, murderer or someone that if they were able to escape there is a reasonable expectation that they could cause someone else harm.

    That is clearly not the case in this instance though.
    It's too bad the protesters spent so much time and credibility on the Zimmerman and Ferguson cases because this seems to be a more legitimate beef.

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    Re: Video Shows Officer Shooting Unarmed Black Man in South Carolina

    Quote Originally Posted by VanceMack View Post
    The law says police CAN shoot unarmed fleeing suspects but only if they represent a clear and present danger to society. Example would be a serial rapist, murderer or someone that if they were able to escape there is a reasonable expectation that they could cause someone else harm.

    That is clearly not the case in this instance though.
    yep, and this was about a tail light. i'm not a cop, but it seems like the right move might have been to pursue him or to go back to the cruiser and call it in.

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    Re: Video Shows Officer Shooting Unarmed Black Man in South Carolina

    Quote Originally Posted by flogger View Post
    US law enforcement is clearly out of control but they and the public seem to like it that way.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kUpMXYiCI6w

    Too many TV cop shows I guess. Go figure
    And you Brits really seem to enjoy having among the very highest rates of crime, assault, and violent crime among industrialized nations. Go figure.

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    Re: Video Shows Officer Shooting Unarmed Black Man in South Carolina

    Video is pretty damning. Charging him was the right call. Even if there was a scuffle for the taser prior to the shooting, the guy didn't possess it when the first shot was fired and the guy was fleeing, hard to justify a viable threat at that point. Too bad the kid didn't start videoing about 5 seconds earlier.

    Doubt this see a jury trial, my guess is, if he has a lawyer with a brain, he'll plea it out.

    Rather bizarre that both of these men were prior US Coast Guard, crazy.

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    Re: Video Shows Officer Shooting Unarmed Black Man in South Carolina

    Quote Originally Posted by Taylor View Post
    And you Brits really seem to enjoy having among the very highest rates of crime, assault, and violent crime among industrialized nations. Go figure.
    No we don't in fact our crime is currently at an all time low with no police officers killed in the line of duty for the last two years. Our murder rate is a fifth of that in the US too

    Crime in England and Wales falls 16% to lowest level since 1981 | UK news | The Guardian

    Unlike in the US a lethal response to crime is the last resort not the first.

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    Quote Originally Posted by rhinefire View Post
    The rate of cops being murdered this year is UP 56% so screw the losers that try to resist -shoot first and ask later.
    Its that shoot first policy that has led to an increase in murdered cops.
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    Re: Video Shows Officer Shooting Unarmed Black Man in South Carolina

    Quote Originally Posted by Chainsaw View Post
    Though it appears from the video that the cop was not justified in the shoot,.........running from a cop for any reason?,.......STUPID.
    Shooting a suspect who is running away... more stupid.
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    Re: Video Shows Officer Shooting Unarmed Black Man in South Carolina

    Quote Originally Posted by solletica View Post
    Body cams on cops are 100% worthless. The police depts. would just doctor the body cam videos or else the cops would turn off the cams and/or censor specific footage.

    In the event body cam videos were available for the public to see, there would be huge discrepancies in the video picked up by those cams and those picked up by bystander cameras and/or cell phones.
    I don't think they are worthless because those types of things wouldn't always happen, and any copy turning off his video or any missing seconds would still be evidence that the cop was the wrong doer.
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    Re: Video Shows Officer Shooting Unarmed Black Man in South Carolina

    Quote Originally Posted by Simon W. Moon View Post
    The jurors may decide that the wires trailing from Slager to Scott are significant enough to answer the question of to what degree--if any--the Taser affects the situation.
    Unlikely.
    A taser in the hands of a criminal can incapacitate the Officer, allowing the criminal to seize and use the Officers firearm.


    Quote Originally Posted by Simon W. Moon View Post
    Jurors could decide that Slager is seen casting something to his right just before he draws his firearm. They may determine that this is Slager dropping the Taser so that he can draw his firearm.
    Considering the angle and force of the thrown object in connection with the movement of the Officers hands. Unlikely.
    They will understand it was not the Officer that threw it.


    Quote Originally Posted by Simon W. Moon View Post
    The best case for Slager is that jurors decide a reasonable person would see the fleeing Scott as a grave and imminent threat to the officer

    The best case for him is if they do not think he saw the criminal throw the weapon away allowing him to still reasonably believe he was a threat.





    Quote Originally Posted by Peter King View Post
    I have made nothing up, the facts are obvious:

    1. the man was not a danger to the officer
    2. the officer gunned an unarmed man down in the back with 8 shots fired

    The man did something wrong and needs to be prosecuted to the proper extend of the law for his crimes.
    Yes you did.

    The following are just some of the bs you made up to believe.

    "The man lied, the officer moved the tazer over to make it look like he had been struggling."
    "and most likely never was."
    "the man was not a danger to the officer"
    "This officer is a murderer"


    Quote Originally Posted by Peter King View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by Excon View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by Peter King View Post
    but in that case there cannot be anything on the side of the police officer. What he did is clearly illegal and not defendable in any way shape or form.

    Quote Originally Posted by Peter King View Post
    Yeah, it seems logic seems go out the door when this kind of discussion is going on


    Which you just confirmed in the quote above this one.
    No, what is "illogical" is blame this officer for all the other black unarmed men gunned down by the police, or making this in Ferguson 2.0 because that would be illogical, sending death threats to the officer/his family/attacking fellow officers, shooting at those officers, etc. etc. etc. That is illogical/logic going out the window.

    What is also illogical is doing like this is not a case of un-warranted deadly force to an unarmed and totally and utterly none dangerous person. Trying to make excuses like "we don't know what he did before" when what he did before is not a reason for gunning someone down in the back like that with 8 bullets. The man was a non-violent person who had not paid his child support and had a broken window.

    There are far too many arrest warrants issued IMHO for things that do not warrant them. Child support is not a case that should be so insane that people go to jail for it in the manner that is happening now. It is important to take non-paying dead beat parents (look, I said parents because not paying your child support has to be seen as gender-neutral) but not with all those arrest warrants and jail time. Make him work for his "offense" of non-payment. Make him do something useful.

    Illogical is also defending police officers in cases where defending them is totally illogical. No competent police officer should do such a thing as has happened here (in a case like this one).

    One cannot logically explain why this officer did something so senseless and deadly, it cannot be justified and it should be punished in accordance with the law.
    Nothing in the above quote refutes what you quoted.
    As shown, your comment was more than applicable to what you said.
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