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    Re: Video Shows Officer Shooting Unarmed Black Man in South Carolina

    Quote Originally Posted by stonewall50 View Post
    That changes things a little. A taser line? If the guy had ahold of the taser still. Would have to watch the video again.




    Here ya go, tell me what's the cop doing between the 1:03 and the 1:40 mark btw.
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    Re: Video Shows Officer Shooting Unarmed Black Man in South Carolina

    Quote Originally Posted by solletica View Post
    Evidence is irrelevant. Both the prosecution and public defender will strike out neutral jurors or any that have the slightest bias against cops. Once that's done, a unanimous guilty vote is impossible.

    My estimate

    Not guilty = 25% chance
    Mistrial (hung jury) = 70% chance
    Guilty = 5% chance
    Evidence is what drives The U.S. legal system.

    Both lawyers have a maximum number of challenges that can be made during the voir dire process.

    The legal system generally works.

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    Re: Video Shows Officer Shooting Unarmed Black Man in South Carolina

    Police Reports from April 3rd, 4th, 5th are unavailable online though reports before and after are available

    http://northcharlestonsc.policereports.us/search.html


    the reports cost $7.50

    Those guys are missing out on some revenue while those records are unavailable.
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    Re: Video Shows Officer Shooting Unarmed Black Man in South Carolina

    Quote Originally Posted by stonewall50 View Post
    Wasn't a taser line present? That will change the fact pattern. Depending upon who was hit with it. Forensics can determine that. Especially if he was.

    There are only a few cases where shooting someone unarmed in the back is acceptable. They are extreme too. And I'm thinking basically the marshals or fbi are the only ones who would likely have a good argument for such an action.
    If someone was a violent offender who had just killed, raped and maimed and was running towards a group of women with children while wielding a knife ready to strike and kill/take hostages, then yes, fire at will.

    But this was a guy with a busted tail light and an arrest warrant for non payment of child support. A 50 year old man on foot with cops coming into the area, this man was not a danger to anyone and he should have either took the trouble of running after the guy and tacking him (he was 20 years the man's junior) or he should have waited for backup and arrested them at their leisure.

    What this officer did now was wrong, dead wrong and from what I see and know completely illegal. I doubt there is one police academy where they teach their officers that this is the correct procedure for taking down an unarmed, non-violent offender, tail light busted, 50 year old father of 4 (if I remember correctly) children. If an officer did something like this in my country he would be arrested and prosecuted (not for murder but with a lesser offense and his walking papers) after an official investigation and in this case it seems tragic that the 50 year old man ran into this "loose gun police officer" instead of the tens of thousands of decent police officers who would have been able to solve this case without killing an unarmed fleeing man in the back with 8 bullets.
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    Re: Video Shows Officer Shooting Unarmed Black Man in South Carolina

    Quote Originally Posted by Simon W. Moon View Post
    Police Reports from April 3rd, 4th, 5th are unavailable online though reports before and after are available

    http://northcharlestonsc.policereports.us/search.html


    the reports cost $7.50

    Those guys are missing out on some revenue while those records are unavailable.
    interesting.
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    Re: Video Shows Officer Shooting Unarmed Black Man in South Carolina

    Quote Originally Posted by Goshin View Post
    I know that "impossible to hack" isn't achievable. "Very hard to hack without making it obvious" is do-able and should suffice most of the time, I'd think.
    In addition to hamper proof measures on the cam itself I'd also probably upload the video real time to a trusted 3rd party.
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    Re: Video Shows Officer Shooting Unarmed Black Man in South Carolina

    Quote Originally Posted by Amadeus View Post
    Who is claiming that all cops are murderers?
    On the first few pages, posts 4,6,9,20,22,24,37......... you can read through the thread yourself if you want more.

    They all leave the impression that cops are liars and the only reason we don't know about it is because there isn't video to prove it. The implication being, cops are getting away with murder.
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    Re: Video Shows Officer Shooting Unarmed Black Man in South Carolina

    Quote Originally Posted by solletica View Post
    True.



    False.

    Cops in states like SC can shoot as many Blacks as they want and face no consequences. The cop in this incident will not be convicted (unless the Feds threaten the police dept. in some fashion). The trial will either end in a full acquittal or mistrial.
    So you are the seer of all trials?

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    Re: Video Shows Officer Shooting Unarmed Black Man in South Carolina

    Quote Originally Posted by SMTA View Post
    Nope.

    The moral is don't break the law, no matter who you are.
    Every body breaks a law, every day. Guess I should have just gotten out of my car and punched that cop that pulled me over the other day and just drove off?

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    Re: Video Shows Officer Shooting Unarmed Black Man in South Carolina

    Quote Originally Posted by SMTA View Post
    Evidence is what drives The U.S. legal system.
    WRONG. There's no way to enforce the requirement that jurors must decide based on evidence. A pro-cop jury can easily nullify the homicide law, and they will.

    Quote Originally Posted by SMTA View Post
    Both lawyers have a maximum number of challenges that can be made during the voir dire process.
    True, but in cases where cops are on trial, both the prosecution and defense will attempt to exclude jurors that are likely to vote guilty, because prosecutors are always pro-cop. In other words, when cops are on trial, the prosecution and defense are on the same side.

    That's not the way it works in other trials, where the prosecution is on one side and the defense on the other--only in those cases, where there's a kick-ass private lawfirm for the defense--can voir dire yield a fair jury.

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