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    Re: Video Shows Officer Shooting Unarmed Black Man in South Carolina

    Quote Originally Posted by reinoe View Post
    i'm pretty sure cops are trained to say "he reached for my gun", as this cop did.


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    Re: Video Shows Officer Shooting Unarmed Black Man in South Carolina

    Quote Originally Posted by Geoist View Post
    That officer is a scumbag.
    Man I'll say. The video on CBS This Morning did show a taser line, so something happened, but the guy ran away in slow motion and that cop could have easily caught him. He's gone. And YOU KNOW that that video is making all the rounds at police shift meetings.
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    Re: Video Shows Officer Shooting Unarmed Black Man in South Carolina

    Quote Originally Posted by solletica View Post
    It's irrelevant what we think. The SC legal system will let the cop walk.
    I doubt it, especially since he has been charged . . . . when something shady is usually going to go down a lot of times they do an internal investigation and no charges are even filed.

    Charges are filed and when the jury sees the video he is taking the long walk
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    Re: Video Shows Officer Shooting Unarmed Black Man in South Carolina

    Quote Originally Posted by jet57 View Post
    Man I'll say. The video on CBS This Morning did show a taser line, so something happened, but the guy ran away in slow motion and that cop could have easily caught him. He's gone. And YOU KNOW that that video is making all the rounds at police shift meetings.
    In addition to trailing wires, it also looks as though he tosses the Taser to his right immediately prior to drawing his pistol.
    These two things seem to challenge the narrative that Slager thought Scott may have the Taser.

    Then there's the little jog back to grab a little something near where it appears he would have dropped the Taser whose wires we saw earlier.
    If I were a finder of fact, that wouldn't do too much for my confidence in the narrative that the possibility Scott had the Taser played into Slager's assessment of the situation.
    I am open to new interpretations of what I have seen.
    But on its face, what I have seen is not assuredly kosher.
    There're sufficient reasons to question Slager's honesty on this matter.

    And then the dropping of a little something near Scott...
    Again, an action which seems to bear attention from a finder of fact, imho.

    I am open to reasonable doubt about Slager trying to use the Taser as planted evidence to justify his shooting. Maybe there was some other thought process going on.
    I'm open to hearing Slager's version of what he picked up, what he dropped, and why.

    I'd really need a very good explanation about how the fleeing Scott was a grave imminent danger to Slager or the community at large.
    So far, Scott fleeing doesn't seem that threatening.

    I am having trouble picturing likely scenarios in which the video corresponds to the fleeing Scott being such a danger.

    Doubtless others have totally worked out the most likely scenarios in which Scott presented a danger worth deadly force.
    I may be wrong.

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    Re: Video Shows Officer Shooting Unarmed Black Man in South Carolina

    Quote Originally Posted by SMTA View Post
    In this case there is damning video.

    Big difference.
    Evidence is irrelevant. Both the prosecution and public defender will strike out neutral jurors or any that have the slightest bias against cops. Once that's done, a unanimous guilty vote is impossible.

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    Not guilty = 25% chance
    Mistrial (hung jury) = 70% chance
    Guilty = 5% chance

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    Re: Video Shows Officer Shooting Unarmed Black Man in South Carolina

    Quote Originally Posted by j-mac View Post
    The NYTimes conveniently puts their disclamer banner in a crucial spot just prior to the officer drawing and shooting.

    While I think based on what I viewed, that the officer could have ran after, or somehow physically subdued the suspect, we don't know all the facts surrounding this, and they will come out.

    So, I guess all the cop haters, and anarchist can now proceed to gather their lynch mobs, and Sharpton, and Jackson can make more money with lies and ginned up outrage.

    Sad really.
    If you look on youtube you can find the raw footage from the incident (and I would assume on live-leak too).

    What we do know is that:

    1. it was not a violent offender
    2. his crime was a broken tail light and not paying his child support
    3. trying to get away

    None of these things warranted the death penalty and that is what he got when an officer gunned him down from a distance in the back (with 8 bullets).

    And I do not want lynch mobs, why would I? The officer seems to be having to pay for his offenses (if found guilty) and that is all anyone can ask from the legal system. Sharpton and Jackson can rightfully complain that this is yet another unarmed colored person being gunned down but they can do that from a position of weakness because in this case the wheels of justice are working at the correct speed.

    And the really sad thing is that now instead of not getting child support the children of this man are now fatherless. That is what is really sad. The officer choose his own path, I feel sad for his family but I am not that sad for him. He killed a man without there being a justification for it, he was not in danger, he was not justified to gun that unarmed man down like that.
    Wilders is a piece of gutter trash, a gutless populist who has no morality to speak of.

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    Re: Video Shows Officer Shooting Unarmed Black Man in South Carolina

    Quote Originally Posted by jet57 View Post
    Man I'll say. The video on CBS This Morning did show a taser line, so something happened, but the guy ran away in slow motion and that cop could have easily caught him. He's gone. And YOU KNOW that that video is making all the rounds at police shift meetings.
    That changes things a little. A taser line? If the guy had ahold of the taser still. Would have to watch the video again.
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    Re: Video Shows Officer Shooting Unarmed Black Man in South Carolina

    Quote Originally Posted by Excon View Post

    Unlike you, I haven't made anything up.

    But this is again a great example of you making things up.
    You have no idea what was moved or why. That all exists in your own imaginative thoughts.
    I have made nothing up, the facts are obvious:

    1. the man was not a danger to the officer
    2. the officer gunned an unarmed man down in the back with 8 shots fired

    The man did something wrong and needs to be prosecuted to the proper extend of the law for his crimes.
    Wilders is a piece of gutter trash, a gutless populist who has no morality to speak of.

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    Video Shows Officer Shooting Unarmed Black Man in South Carolina

    Quote Originally Posted by Peter King View Post
    I have made nothing up, the facts are obvious:

    1. the man was not a danger to the officer
    2. the officer gunned an unarmed man down in the back with 8 shots fired

    The man did something wrong and needs to be prosecuted to the proper extend of the law for his crimes.
    Wasn't a taser line present? That will change the fact pattern. Depending upon who was hit with it. Forensics can determine that. Especially if he was.

    There are only a few cases where shooting someone unarmed in the back is acceptable. They are extreme too. And I'm thinking basically the marshals or fbi are the only ones who would likely have a good argument for such an action.
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    Re: Video Shows Officer Shooting Unarmed Black Man in South Carolina

    Quote Originally Posted by Excon View Post


    Which you just confirmed in the quote above this one.
    No, what is "illogical" is blame this officer for all the other black unarmed men gunned down by the police, or making this in Ferguson 2.0 because that would be illogical, sending death threats to the officer/his family/attacking fellow officers, shooting at those officers, etc. etc. etc. That is illogical/logic going out the window.

    What is also illogical is doing like this is not a case of un-warranted deadly force to an unarmed and totally and utterly none dangerous person. Trying to make excuses like "we don't know what he did before" when what he did before is not a reason for gunning someone down in the back like that with 8 bullets. The man was a non-violent person who had not paid his child support and had a broken window.

    There are far too many arrest warrants issued IMHO for things that do not warrant them. Child support is not a case that should be so insane that people go to jail for it in the manner that is happening now. It is important to take non-paying dead beat parents (look, I said parents because not paying your child support has to be seen as gender-neutral) but not with all those arrest warrants and jail time. Make him work for his "offense" of non-payment. Make him do something useful.

    Illogical is also defending police officers in cases where defending them is totally illogical. No competent police officer should do such a thing as has happened here (in a case like this one).

    One cannot logically explain why this officer did something so senseless and deadly, it cannot be justified and it should be punished in accordance with the law.
    Wilders is a piece of gutter trash, a gutless populist who has no morality to speak of.

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