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    Re: Video Shows Officer Shooting Unarmed Black Man in South Carolina

    From the description of the video, which is posted on the newspaper's website, The New York Times reported:

    The video begins in the vacant lot, apparently moments after Officer Slager fired his Taser. Wires, which carry the electrical current from the stun gun, appear to be extending from Mr. Scott’s body as the two men tussle and Mr. Scott turns to run.

    Something — it is not clear whether it is the stun gun — is either tossed or knocked to the ground behind the two men, and Officer Slager draws his gun, the video shows. When the officer fires, Mr. Scott appears to be 15 to 20 feet away and fleeing. He falls after the last of eight shots.

    The officer then runs back toward where the initial scuffle occurred and picks something up off the ground. Moments later, he drops an object near Mr. Scott’s body, the video shows.


    http://www.nytimes.com/2015/04/08/us...ans-death.html

    Three issues include:

    1. The "black object" at the early stages of what happened. Possibly, it was the stun gun. I suspect that once the video is enhanced during the investigation, the object will be identified.
    2. The shots were fired at Mr. Scott when he was trying to flee and was some distance away (15-20 feet according to the news account).
    3. The police officer picked up and placed an object near Mr. Scott's body.

    The second point will almost certainly negate arguments that Mr. Scott posed a threat to the officer. The officer's perceptions, degree of training (if he lacked adequate training), among other factors, might lead to some mitigation of the charges, but it is difficult to imagine a scenario under which the officer would be exonerated.

    The third point will probably seal the case against the officer. It is nothing less than an alteration of the crime scene. Such alteration suggests that the officer may have realized he had used unlawful force and attempted to change the narrative that would have become clear from a review of the evidence.

    In sum, unless there is significant and credible new evidence, it's probably very likely that the officer will be convicted. Second degree murder is a distinct possibility, especially as he had altered the scene, providing some indication that he was aware that his conduct was inappropriate. Lesser charges are also possible, if the officer can reasonably demonstrate some extenuating factors, but his actions following the shooting may have lowered the probability of his being convicted on those lesser charges.
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    Re: Video Shows Officer Shooting Unarmed Black Man in South Carolina

    Quote Originally Posted by beefheart View Post
    It means something because he was pulled over and he was driving a nice car. There is a term for that, "driving while black", and it happens a lot. Yeah, it is relevant.
    He was actually pulled over because he had a broken tail light. And they were saying this morning on MSNBC that it was assumed he tried to flee because he's been arrested 10 times, mostly for failure to pay child support and the belief is he didn't want to go to jail. There isn't any evidence that he was pulled over because he was black or because of the car he drove.

    Regardless of why he was pulled over and what happened prior to the shooting, I saw the video, and to me it was a pretty clear case of the cop doing wrong and the cop also lying (claiming he did CPR when he didn't). The cop putting him in handcuffs while yelling at him to put his hands behind his back when he was already dead is just inexplicable. You can't really see what the cop tosses next to his body after going back to the scuffle scene to retrieve something, but I'm sure they will be able to digitally enhance it. If in fact it was the cop's taser that he claims the guy wrestled away from him, then this is as clear a case for murder as it gets.
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    Re: Video Shows Officer Shooting Unarmed Black Man in South Carolina

    Quote Originally Posted by j-mac View Post
    The NYTimes conveniently puts their disclamer banner in a crucial spot just prior to the officer drawing and shooting.

    While I think based on what I viewed, that the officer could have ran after, or somehow physically subdued the suspect, we don't know all the facts surrounding this, and they will come out.

    So, I guess all the cop haters, and anarchist can now proceed to gather their lynch mobs, and Sharpton, and Jackson can make more money with lies and ginned up outrage.

    Sad really.
    The cop was in the wrong, period.

    One cannot be in fear of their life when the other person is running away from them.

    The taser is a moot point, as it is not lethal, and having been discharged, was certainly not a weapon.

    The cop was lazy, being a prick, or was just pissed off.

    The fact that he lied about providing CPR further reduces his credibility.

    Hopefully, the original report will be made public.
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    Re: Video Shows Officer Shooting Unarmed Black Man in South Carolina

    Quote Originally Posted by jet57 View Post



    Wait, what? he was charged with murder....
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    Re: Video Shows Officer Shooting Unarmed Black Man in South Carolina

    Quote Originally Posted by j-mac View Post
    The NYTimes conveniently puts their disclamer banner in a crucial spot just prior to the officer drawing and shooting.

    While I think based on what I viewed, that the officer could have ran after, or somehow physically subdued the suspect, we don't know all the facts surrounding this, and they will come out.

    So, I guess all the cop haters, and anarchist can now proceed to gather their lynch mobs, and Sharpton, and Jackson can make more money with lies and ginned up outrage.

    Sad really.






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    Re: Video Shows Officer Shooting Unarmed Black Man in South Carolina

    Quote Originally Posted by Hatuey View Post
    Oh, you'll find that some will defend it regardless. What are you? New to DP?
    Yeah, it seems logic seems go out the door when this kind of discussion is going on (from both sides to some extend even) and in some cases I am going to have to err on the side of the police officer (that is usually the case, without clear and real evidence to persuade me differently) but in that case there cannot be anything on the side of the police officer. What he did is clearly illegal and not defendable in any way shape or form.
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    Re: Video Shows Officer Shooting Unarmed Black Man in South Carolina




    at around 1:40 the cop drops the taser or some object near the victim in full view of the other cop, he at minimum, if he didn't immedietly report it, should be fired.
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    Re: Video Shows Officer Shooting Unarmed Black Man in South Carolina

    Quote Originally Posted by ReverendHellh0und View Post



    at around 1:40 the cop drops the taser or some object near the victim in full view of the other cop, he at minimum, if he didn't immedietly report it, should be fired.
    Yup, that's what did it for me. If that is in fact his stun gun, then there is no question about what happened here.
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    Re: Video Shows Officer Shooting Unarmed Black Man in South Carolina

    Is there a larger issue here in regards to the training that Police officers in the US receive? Seems to be a lot more cases like this popping up everywhere in the US.
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    Re: Video Shows Officer Shooting Unarmed Black Man in South Carolina

    I'm sure it's been mentioned, but if there was no video footage, many people would automatically assume that the black guy was a threat and the police officer was justified.

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