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    Re: Video Shows Officer Shooting Unarmed Black Man in South Carolina

    Quote Originally Posted by DVSentinel View Post
    How is the police shooting a suspect resisting lawful arrest and fleeing worse than the criminals?


    Because taking a human life for a tailight and running is abhorrent. "Resisting lawful arrest" should not be a death sentence.

    Death is final, is running away, egregious enough to be shot in the back and killed for? If so, then why plant the taser on him?
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    Re: Video Shows Officer Shooting Unarmed Black Man in South Carolina

    Quote Originally Posted by Simon W. Moon View Post
    Iirc, the Supreme Court found it was unlawful seizure vis-a-vis the Fourth Amendment.

    rights to be secure in person vs govt seizure > state's interest in stopping suspects/criminals who are not some sort of a grave danger to someone.

    I think that's how they framed it.

    You seem to be saying that the value of the state's interest in stopping offenders is greater than the value of your own life.


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    Re: Video Shows Officer Shooting Unarmed Black Man in South Carolina

    Quote Originally Posted by ReverendHellh0und View Post
    Because taking a human life for a tailight and running is abhorrent. "Resisting lawful arrest" should not be a death sentence.

    Death is final, is running away, egregious enough to be shot in the back and killed for? If so, then why plant the taser on him?
    The fact that this even needs to be explained is gut wrenching to me.

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    Re: Video Shows Officer Shooting Unarmed Black Man in South Carolina

    Quote Originally Posted by ReverendHellh0und View Post
    Because taking a human life for a tailight and running is abhorrent. "Resisting lawful arrest" should not be a death sentence.

    Death is final, is running away, egregious enough to be shot in the back and killed for?
    Life was not take for a "taillight". Life was taken for resisting arrest/fleeing. I see no problem with it as a non-criminal would have no reason to do so. The life of a criminal has no positive value to a society. If by killing one, you prevent others from doing the same thing, then it is of value. If shooting a few that are fleeing prevents others from fleeing, it is definitely worth the life of a few criminal scum.
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    Re: Video Shows Officer Shooting Unarmed Black Man in South Carolina

    Quote Originally Posted by DVSentinel View Post
    Life was not take for a "taillight". Life was taken for resisting arrest/fleeing. I see no problem with it as a non-criminal would have no reason to do so. The life of a criminal has no positive value to a society. If by killing one, you prevent others from doing the same thing, then it is of value. If shooting a few that are fleeing prevents others from fleeing, it is definitely worth the life of a few criminal scum.
    When I was 16, I ran from the police when they showed up to bust us for skinny dipping in the local public pool. There were about 40 of us including the mayors daughter, the chief of polices son, and the athletic directors daughter. (I got away)..

    So in your estimation.. if the police had opened fire on us as we fled.. then it would be a "good shoot"?

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    Re: Video Shows Officer Shooting Unarmed Black Man in South Carolina

    Quote Originally Posted by DVSentinel View Post
    Life was not take for a "taillight". Life was taken for resisting arrest/fleeing. I see no problem with it as a non-criminal would have no reason to do so. The life of a criminal has no positive value to a society. If by killing one, you prevent others from doing the same thing, then it is of value. If shooting a few that are fleeing prevents others from fleeing, it is definitely worth the life of a few criminal scum.
    So let's say a cop shoots you in the back and claims you were fleeing....Dead mean don't testify. How can you be sure in the absence of video evidence that the person was actually fleeing and not simply staged execution?

    Let's say a person flees and....

    What if the person has a mental illness?

    What if the person is experiencing a medical illness?

    What if a person is having a reaction to a medication and aren't in a "normal" state of mind?

    What if a person is severely distraught over the loss of a loved one?

    How does a cop differentiate on the spot?


    How does the punishment fit the crime? Running is punishable by death? Are we in N. Korea?
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    Re: Video Shows Officer Shooting Unarmed Black Man in South Carolina

    Quote Originally Posted by DVSentinel View Post
    Life was not take for a "taillight". Life was taken for resisting arrest/fleeing. I see no problem with it as a non-criminal would have no reason to do so. The life of a criminal has no positive value to a society. If by killing one, you prevent others from doing the same thing, then it is of value. If shooting a few that are fleeing prevents others from fleeing, it is definitely worth the life of a few criminal scum.
    Wow....authoritarians.

    You're using a lot of "ifs" for government force that takes life. Instead of "ifs" do you have numbers? Proof? Evidence?
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    Re: Video Shows Officer Shooting Unarmed Black Man in South Carolina

    Quote Originally Posted by jaeger19 View Post
    When I was 16, I ran from the police when they showed up to bust us for skinny dipping in the local public pool. There were about 40 of us including the mayors daughter, the chief of polices son, and the athletic directors daughter. (I got away)..

    So in your estimation.. if the police had opened fire on us as we fled.. then it would be a "good shoot"?
    If you had known the cops would shoot you if you ran, would you have ran?
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    Re: Video Shows Officer Shooting Unarmed Black Man in South Carolina

    Quote Originally Posted by Ikari View Post
    Wow....authoritarians.

    You're using a lot of "ifs" for government force that takes life. Instead of "ifs" do you have numbers? Proof? Evidence?
    Check the international crime stats. Countries with the strictest enforcement and harshest punishments always have lower crime rates. True, that sometimes what they consider a crime does not hold up under our value systems, but it definitely proves that harsh, strict handling of criminals gives the lowest crime rates.
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    Re: Video Shows Officer Shooting Unarmed Black Man in South Carolina

    Quote Originally Posted by csbrown28 View Post
    So let's say a cop shoots you in the back and claims you were fleeing....Dead mean don't testify. How can you be sure in the absence of video evidence that the person was actually fleeing and not simply staged execution?

    Let's say a person flees and....

    What if the person has a mental illness?

    What if the person is experiencing a medical illness?

    What if a person is having a reaction to a medication and aren't in a "normal" state of mind?

    What if a person is severely distraught over the loss of a loved one?

    How does a cop differentiate on the spot?


    How does the punishment fit the crime? Running is punishable by death? Are we in N. Korea?
    Punishment doesn't have to fit the crime. Punishment has to deter others from committing the same offence. No, running should not be punishable by death, lots of people do it for exercise. However, fleeing to avoid prosecution for criminal activities, I fully support shooting the scumbags.

    No, we are not North Korea, at least not yet, give the liberals and other socialist leaning factions a few more decades and we will be there.
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