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Starbucks to give workers full ride for college

Say what you will about their overpriced, mediocre coffee, but a lot of people like it, and they seem to be pretty damn generous.

Starbucks to give workers a full ride for college - Apr. 6, 2015

Eeeek...an Online College Degree ?

I guess thats generous.

And I like their coffee. Most young people never had the " luxury " of tasting Coffee that came out of a percolater.

Prior to " Mr Coffee's " invention thats how people made their coffee.

They essentially Boiled it. Boiling Coffee is spoiling Coffee because it makes the Coffee bitter.

Starbucks serves it at the Right temperature and as long as you dont tell them to turn it into a friken Milkshake ( what most people order from starbucks ) its good coffee.
 
There's nothing wrong with earning a degree online. As long as it is earned from a reputable university/college, which Arizona State is, it's the same curriculum, just as rigorous as going into the classroom. It's just more convenient for people who can't make it into a classroom.

I buy Starbucks coffee once in a while. It's good, not great. Their Frappuchinos are pretty great though! I'll give them that.
 
Say what you will about their overpriced, mediocre coffee, but a lot of people like it, and they seem to be pretty damn generous.

Starbucks to give workers a full ride for college - Apr. 6, 2015

Hmmm....58% of $15,000 in yearly tuition is generous, I agree. I would applaud them and actually frequent the place, but I don't want the kid with the HS diploma who works there now attempting to have a cerebral discussion with me about race relations.

It seems like a good offer for their employees.
 
There's nothing wrong with earning a degree online. As long as it is earned from a reputable university/college, which Arizona State is, it's the same curriculum, just as rigorous as going into the classroom. It's just more convenient for people who can't make it into a classroom.

I buy Starbucks coffee once in a while. It's good, not great. Their Frappuchinos are pretty great though!

Yes, their " Mocha Milkshakes " are great ...Lol

Due to my family History of Type 2 Diabetes I can't touch those things. They look good, but they're loaded with sugar and fat especially if you dont get the low-flow fat creme.
 
Hmmm....58% of $15,000 in yearly tuition is generous, I agree. I would applaud them and actually frequent the place, but I don't want the kid with the HS diploma who works there now attempting to have a cerebral discussion with me about race relations.

It seems like a good offer for their employees.

Well, they have a deal with ASU where ASU gives all of Starbucks' eligible employees a scholarship that covers 42% of tuition, and Starbucks covers the remaining 52%, so it is a full ride.

What I think is really cool is that there are no strings attached. Most companies who offer tuition require you to work for that company for a certain number of years after you earn your degree, or you have to pay the company back. In this case, Starbucks is allowing them to leave the company after they earn their degree. You can't beat that, especially for a company that requires no skills to get into on the entry level.
 
Say what you will about their overpriced, mediocre coffee, but a lot of people like it, and they seem to be pretty damn generous.

Starbucks to give workers a full ride for college - Apr. 6, 2015

I generally have a negative opinion of Starbucks, mostly because I think it's inane to pay $5 for a cup of coffee, but I have to admit that's incredibly generous of them and it does make me think a whole lot more of them. I really hope that this catches on with more companies so that upward mobility becomes a lot easier for more people.
 
There's nothing wrong with earning a degree online. As long as it is earned from a reputable university/college, which Arizona State is, it's the same curriculum, just as rigorous as going into the classroom.

No it is not. For one thing you don't have to get off your ass.

There are certain elements of classroom learning that is very difficult to replicate online. Foreign language for instance can't really be matched except for study/travel abroad. Various group projects and presentations, physical lab work, networking, actual interaction with professors, test taking - some of that doesn't exist at all, and the rest isn't widely respected by industry or grad schools when done online only.
 
Well, they have a deal with ASU where ASU gives all of Starbucks' eligible employees a scholarship that covers 42% of tuition, and Starbucks covers the remaining 52%, so it is a full ride.

What I think is really cool is that there are no strings attached. Most companies who offer tuition require you to work for that company for a certain number of years after you earn your degree, or you have to pay the company back. In this case, Starbucks is allowing them to leave the company after they earn their degree. You can't beat that, especially for a company that requires no skills to get into on the entry level.

Yes, I saw that the college kicks in 42%, and that's why I said 58% (which is Starbucks share). That's a generous offering from Starbucks. And yes, they don't have a strings attached except for the obvious reimbursement after the semester to make sure that the employee doesn't bail mid-term. I think this is a good thing.
 
It is generous of Starbucks but seriously $15,000/year for an online degree?
 
No it is not. For one thing you don't have to get off your ass.

There are certain elements of classroom learning that is very difficult to replicate online. Foreign language for instance can't really be matched except for study/travel abroad. Various group projects and presentations, physical lab work, networking, actual interaction with professors, test taking - some of that doesn't exist at all, and the rest isn't widely respected by industry or grad schools when done online only.

As far as I know, Universities do not offer online degrees that require lab work. For instance, I don't know of a single university that offers a bachelor degree in chemistry. You just can't do it.

But, for the majors that they offer online bachelor degrees in, the curriculum is certainly the same as if you physically go into the classroom.
 
I generally have a negative opinion of Starbucks, mostly because I think it's inane to pay $5 for a cup of coffee, but I have to admit that's incredibly generous of them and it does make me think a whole lot more of them. I really hope that this catches on with more companies so that upward mobility becomes a lot easier for more people.

This isn't necessarily as altruistic as it appears on the surface:

"employees who drop out or leave the company will be responsible for paying tuition for that semester."

The risk of enrolling and failing might explain why only 2000 / 150,000 starbucks workers are in the 2 year program currently. Tying in ongoing employment with tuition reimbursement is likely a way to keep them on the leash too.
 
Yes, I saw that the college kicks in 42%, and that's why I said 58% (which is Starbucks share). That's a generous offering from Starbucks. And yes, they don't have a strings attached except for the obvious reimbursement after the semester to make sure that the employee doesn't bail mid-term. I think this is a good thing.

It is a good thing, and it is how 'free college' should be handled, by private sector organizations who wish to provide it, not by our federal government.
 
It is generous of Starbucks but seriously $15,000/year for an online degree?

Online degrees aren't any cheaper than physically going to the classroom, minus the room and board, and the degree that you earn just says Arizona State University, not Arizona State Online University.
 
Online degrees aren't any cheaper than physically going to the classroom, minus the room and board, and the degree that you earn just says Arizona State University, not Arizona State Online University.

I feel that they should be less but that still seems insane to me, I pay 8000$/year in tuition to physically attend my university and in province people pay less than I do.
 
Kudos to the company. I do not drink coffee and have never spent a dollar there but this is something they need to be lauded for.
 
This isn't necessarily as altruistic as it appears on the surface:

"employees who drop out or leave the company will be responsible for paying tuition for that semester."

The risk of enrolling and failing might explain why only 2000 / 150,000 starbucks workers are in the 2 year program currently. Tying in ongoing employment with tuition reimbursement is likely a way to keep them on the leash too.

Starbucks is generous, not stupid. There should be strings attached.

I mean God forbid some young person has to deal with rules set down by the people who're paying for their College.

What if people applied for a Job at Starbucks with the full intention of quiting and making Starbucks pay the rest of their semester ?

Starbucks has every right to set its own standards considering the amount of money they're offering.

Making employees liable for the cost if they drop out is just a way to weed out the people who aren't really motivated.
 
No it is not. For one thing you don't have to get off your ass.

So what?

In my experience online classes are more difficult than brick-and-mortar classes from a strictly academic perspective.

There are certain elements of classroom learning that is very difficult to replicate online.

And there are a whole hell of a lot more that aren't.

Foreign language for instance can't really be matched except for study/travel abroad.

Huh?

This doesn't even make any sense.

It doesn't matter whether you get your degree from Arizona State or Arizona State online.

In neither case will you be required to live overseas and immerse yourself in a foreign culture in order to earn an undergrad degree.

Various group projects and presentations, physical lab work, networking, actual interaction with professors, test taking - some of that doesn't exist at all...

Most of it exists to a much greater degree than you seem to think.

...and the rest isn't widely respected by industry or grad schools when done online only.

As has already been said, "industry and grad schools" have no idea whether you did your undergrad work in a classroom or on a computer.

It's certainly never came up when I was applying to grad schools and it's never been mentioned in any interview I've ever been on.

This isn't necessarily as altruistic as it appears on the surface:

You don't know an awful lot about Howard Schultz or Starbuck's business philosophy, do you?

This decision was made because it was altruistic.

There may be, will certainly be, second and third order effects that come of it, but the impetus behind the policy was putting people first.

Don't like it?

The CEO will tell you to go ahead and sell your shares to someone who does.

"employees who drop out or leave the company will be responsible for paying tuition for that semester."

If you think that is unreasonable, then you're just an unreasonable person who will never be happy.

Tying in ongoing employment with tuition reimbursement is likely a way to keep them on the leash too.

There is no tie-in there.

The company I work for will pay 90% of tuition and fees but if you take that deal you need to earn a "C" or better or you don't get reimbursed and you need to stay with the company for four years after graduation or you pay back all the money they laid out for your education.

That's a tie in.

Asking people to pay back one semester's worth of tuition if you fail, drop out, or quit is literally nothing.

Pretty much everything you've said on this topic is essentially ignorant and consequently worthless.

It's like you're being contradictory simply for the sake of being contradictory.
 
I think this is a good thing....A good alternative to raising minimum wage, plus it is totally a free market idea so ++
 
I think this is a good thing....A good alternative to raising minimum wage, plus it is totally a free market idea so ++

Absolutely! This is what is known as a hand up, not a hand out.
 
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It is a good thing, and it is how 'free college' should be handled, by private sector organizations who wish to provide it, not by our federal government.

I'm guessing Arizona State University and it's online education programs are partially subsidized by taxpayers in state and federally, but I agree with your take on this.

I also agree it is good business practice both for Starbucks and for the university. But we shouldn't assume that this is a unique program to Starbucks. These types of business sponsored or supported education programs go on in lots of large and medium sized corporations.
 
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