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    Re: The lost tomb of Jesus? Scientist claims he has 'virtually unequivocal evidence'

    Quote Originally Posted by cpwill View Post
    he claimed that the New Testament wasn't finished being written until "hundreds" of years after.
    Hundreds? Nooo, decades. If Jesus died in 30-33AD, the bulk of the New Testament was finalized by 115AD at the latest. Excluding whatever that one pseudepigraphical one.

    I'm glad I added pseudepigraphical to my online dictionary. Such a strange word.
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    Re: The lost tomb of Jesus? Scientist claims he has 'virtually unequivocal evidence'

    Quote Originally Posted by Cephus View Post
    Ah, I understand now, you're just ignorant and don't know any better. This country was NOT founded on Judeo-Christian values. Just read the Treaty of Tripoli, article 11 of which begins: "As the Government of the United States of America is not, in any sense, founded on the Christian religion..." This was the view of the founding fathers. This was the view of Congress which approved it unanimously. It is a myth, a complete and total lie, that America is a Christian nation and you fell for it hook, line and sinker. You ought to be ashamed.
    Sigh, I said values not the religion.

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    Re: The lost tomb of Jesus? Scientist claims he has 'virtually unequivocal evidence'

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    Nor does it make it bad or immoral. It just makes it true.
    So is sharia law good and a moral law to live under then?
    As a legal system, the Sharia law covers a very wide range of topics. While other legal codes deal primarily with public behavior, Sharia law covers public behavior, private behavior and private beliefs. Of all legal systems in the world today, Islam's Sharia law is the most intrusive and strict, especially against women.

    According to the Sharia law:

    • Theft is punishable by amputation of the right hand (above).
    • Criticizing or denying any part of the Quran is punishable by death.
    • Criticizing or denying Muhammad is a prophet is punishable by death.
    • Criticizing or denying Allah, the moon god of Islam is punishable by death.
    • A Muslim who becomes a non-Muslim is punishable by death.
    • A non-Muslim who leads a Muslim away from Islam is punishable by death.
    • A non-Muslim man who marries a Muslim woman is punishable by death.
    • A man can marry an infant girl and consummate the marriage when she is 9 years old.
    • Girls' clitoris should be cut (per Muhammad's words in Book 41, Kitab Al-Adab, Hadith 5251).
    • A woman can have 1 husband, but a man can have up to 4 wives; Muhammad can have more.
    • A man can unilaterally divorce his wife but a woman needs her husband's consent to divorce.
    • A man can beat his wife for insubordination.
    • Testimonies of four male witnesses are required to prove rape against a woman.
    • A woman who has been raped cannot testify in court against her rapist(s).
    • A woman's testimony in court, allowed only in property cases, carries half the weight of a man's.
    • A female heir inherits half of what a male heir inherits.
    • A woman cannot drive a car, as it leads to fitnah (upheaval).
    • A woman cannot speak alone to a man who is not her husband or relative.
    • Meat to be eaten must come from animals that have been sacrificed to Allah - i.e., be Halal.
    • Muslims should engage in Taqiyya and lie to non-Muslims to advance Islam.
    • The list goes on.

    Man I cant wait to live under such a good, moral, just law. I personally don't understand why we don't have it already.

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    Re: The lost tomb of Jesus? Scientist claims he has 'virtually unequivocal evidence'

    Quote Originally Posted by Grant View Post
    Was that a singular "hundreds" or a plural "hundreds"?
    apparently now he is arguing it was one-and-a-half "hundreds"
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    Re: The lost tomb of Jesus? Scientist claims he has 'virtually unequivocal evidence'

    Quote Originally Posted by brothern View Post
    Hundreds? Nooo, decades. If Jesus died in 30-33AD, the bulk of the New Testament was finalized by 115AD at the latest. Excluding whatever that one pseudepigraphical one.

    I'm glad I added pseudepigraphical to my online dictionary. Such a strange word.
    I think you are referring to the Gospel of John, which was probably written prior to the Roman destruction of Jerusalem. The oldest fragment of the NT that we have is from the Gospel of John, and dates to about 115 AD.
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    Re: The lost tomb of Jesus? Scientist claims he has 'virtually unequivocal evidence'

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    Sigh, I said values not the religion.
    Define the values then, a lot of things in Christianity were stolen wholesale from prior religions and social structures. How do you know that these "values" were Christian? Present your evidence.
    There is nothing demonstrably true that religion can provide the world that cannot be achieved more rationally through entirely secular means.

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    Re: The lost tomb of Jesus? Scientist claims he has 'virtually unequivocal evidence'

    Quote Originally Posted by JFish123 View Post
    So is sharia law good and a moral law to live under then?
    As a legal system, the Sharia law covers a very wide range of topics. While other legal codes deal primarily with public behavior, Sharia law covers public behavior, private behavior and private beliefs. Of all legal systems in the world today, Islam's Sharia law is the most intrusive and strict, especially against women.

    According to the Sharia law:

    • Theft is punishable by amputation of the right hand (above).
    • Criticizing or denying any part of the Quran is punishable by death.
    • Criticizing or denying Muhammad is a prophet is punishable by death.
    • Criticizing or denying Allah, the moon god of Islam is punishable by death.
    • A Muslim who becomes a non-Muslim is punishable by death.
    • A non-Muslim who leads a Muslim away from Islam is punishable by death.
    • A non-Muslim man who marries a Muslim woman is punishable by death.
    • A man can marry an infant girl and consummate the marriage when she is 9 years old.
    • Girls' clitoris should be cut (per Muhammad's words in Book 41, Kitab Al-Adab, Hadith 5251).
    • A woman can have 1 husband, but a man can have up to 4 wives; Muhammad can have more.
    • A man can unilaterally divorce his wife but a woman needs her husband's consent to divorce.
    • A man can beat his wife for insubordination.
    • Testimonies of four male witnesses are required to prove rape against a woman.
    • A woman who has been raped cannot testify in court against her rapist(s).
    • A woman's testimony in court, allowed only in property cases, carries half the weight of a man's.
    • A female heir inherits half of what a male heir inherits.
    • A woman cannot drive a car, as it leads to fitnah (upheaval).
    • A woman cannot speak alone to a man who is not her husband or relative.
    • Meat to be eaten must come from animals that have been sacrificed to Allah - i.e., be Halal.
    • Muslims should engage in Taqiyya and lie to non-Muslims to advance Islam.
    • The list goes on.

    Man I cant wait to live under such a good, moral, just law. I personally don't understand why we don't have it already.
    And that's from your perspective. Others do not share that perspective. You live under the rather absurd misconception that your way is the only way.
    There is nothing demonstrably true that religion can provide the world that cannot be achieved more rationally through entirely secular means.

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    Re: The lost tomb of Jesus? Scientist claims he has 'virtually unequivocal evidence'

    Quote Originally Posted by Cephus View Post
    And that's from your perspective. Others do not share that perspective. You live under the rather absurd misconception that your way is the only way.
    It doesn't matter whose "perspective" it is. Cutting peoples hands off for theft, permission to beat women, killing people for changing religion, is wrong and crazy universally, regardless of how some people may feel about it.

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    Re: The lost tomb of Jesus? Scientist claims he has 'virtually unequivocal evidence'

    The Bible has more than a few such impositions. The death penalty for cursing a parent, taking the Lord's name in vain, not crying out loudly enough while being raped, or even not being a virgin on your wedding night (Those last two apply women only.) are some examples. Remember the guy who picked up sticks on the Sabbath? Death..... Look to the beam in your own eye.
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    Re: The lost tomb of Jesus? Scientist claims he has 'virtually unequivocal evidence'

    Quote Originally Posted by Fearandloathing View Post
    He broke every social tenet to speak to a woman, broke more as she was morally judged, and then gives her the responsibility of delivery His message accurately.

    That is not keeping women in their place, and it is not judging on moral grounds, a woman hooker as preacher is what HE is all about
    I think you're right about that. The Biblical Jesus, whether or not I believe him to be son of God, was all about that. I just wonder, when was the last time ANY Christian church looked to a hooker to go preach the gospel?
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