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    Re: The lost tomb of Jesus? Scientist claims he has 'virtually unequivocal evidence'

    Quote Originally Posted by zgoldsmith23 View Post
    Okay. So we'll say it was written at those time points. According to J.D. Crossan, the average age of a Palestinian man in these times was 29 years. So let's assume that these are eyewitness accounts. Also, let's assume Jesus did die in 33 A.D. If the Gospel according to Mark was written in 61 A.D. and the average life expectancy was 29 years, that would make him 4 years old at the time of Jesus' death. AND THAT'S THE EARLIEST DATE. John was written in 86 A.D. (your source, not mine). He would have had to have been almost 50 when he was writing this to even have been at the death and resurrection of Jesus if he was a newborn infant when it happened. Oh, and lest we forget, this is in a largely illiterate area. So sure, it makes sense that a four year old in an illiterate area would write down and have perfect recollection from memory (25+ years later mind you) a supernatural story. Yeah. Right.
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    Re: The lost tomb of Jesus? Scientist claims he has 'virtually unequivocal evidence'

    Quote Originally Posted by Logicman View Post
    That's because there's zero credible historical evidence of it.
    There are a lot of things in the bible that have zero credible evidence too. Can you actually prove Jesus existed? There's also no evidence King Herod killed first born children either. And so on.

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    Re: The lost tomb of Jesus? Scientist claims he has 'virtually unequivocal evidence'

    Quote Originally Posted by EnigmaO01 View Post
    There are a lot of things in the bible that have zero credible evidence too. Can you actually prove Jesus existed?
    There's tons of scholarly works around that answer that to the affirmative. In fact, I don't know of any serious historian who denies a 1st century Jesus.

    Quote Originally Posted by EnigmaO01 View Post
    There's also no evidence King Herod killed first born children either. And so on.
    Bethlehem was known by the Biblical prophet Micah as one of the smallest communities in all of Judea, so just how many babies 2 years old or younger do you really think there were? Three? Five? Maybe ten?

    For the record, Professor William F. Albright, the dean of American archaeology in the Holy Land, estimates that the population of Bethlehem at the time of Jesus' birth to be about 300 people (Albright and Mann 1971:19). The number of male children, two years old or younger, would be about six or seven (Maier 1998:178, footnote 25). This would hardly be a newsworthy event in light of what else was going on at the time (Biblearchaeology.org).

    Considering all the butchery Herod was involved in, even murdering people in his own family, I don't see the Bethlehem killing as a major news story, especially since CNN and FOX and the other networks didn't even exist back then.

    Finally, they don't call an argument from silence (which is what you're making), a logical fallacy, for nothing.
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    Re: The lost tomb of Jesus? Scientist claims he has 'virtually unequivocal evidence'

    Quote Originally Posted by DA60 View Post
    Impressive.
    Hardly.

    You folks trying to tell me a 50, 60, or 70 year old man couldn't remember a physical resurrection from the dead of a crucified individual?

    I still remember quite vividly events and comments from the Vietnam War I was in back some 45 years ago.

    So, like I said, it's hardly an impressive argument.
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    Re: The lost tomb of Jesus? Scientist claims he has 'virtually unequivocal evidence'

    Quote Originally Posted by Logicman View Post
    You folks trying to tell me a 50, 60, or 70 year old man couldn't remember a physical resurrection from the dead of a crucified individual?
    To be fair, that sort of thing happens all the time. It would have been easy for them to mistake one such incident for another
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    Re: The lost tomb of Jesus? Scientist claims he has 'virtually unequivocal evidence'

    Quote Originally Posted by EnigmaO01 View Post
    There are a lot of things in the bible that have zero credible evidence too.
    There are 83 independently confirmed archaeological facts in the second half of the book of Acts alone.
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    Re: The lost tomb of Jesus? Scientist claims he has 'virtually unequivocal evidence'

    Quote Originally Posted by cpwill View Post
    There are 83 independently confirmed archaeological facts in the second half of the book of Acts alone.
    Yes, they also have archaeological evidence from events inside of many books, their is no evidence for any of the supposed "miracles" or unrealistic claims. Also, I'd love you to back this up.

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    Re: The lost tomb of Jesus? Scientist claims he has 'virtually unequivocal evidence'

    Quote Originally Posted by Fenton View Post
    So Peter directly passing down his eyewitness accounts to Mark wouldn't qualify as a eyewitness account ?

    As an example I could give eyewitness accounts of things my Grandfather did 30 years ago to my son.

    Does that make those accounts false ?
    No, but if your grandfather says he met god incarnate, we're going to need more evidence. Have you ever played "the telephone game"?

    Quote Originally Posted by cpwill View Post
    There are 83 independently confirmed archaeological facts in the second half of the book of Acts alone.
    Do any of those archaeological facts show that people used to have magical powers?

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    Re: The lost tomb of Jesus? Scientist claims he has 'virtually unequivocal evidence'

    [QUOTE=Dovkan;1064513801]Yes, they also have archaeological evidence from events inside of many books, their is no evidence for any of the supposed "miracles" or unrealistic claims. Also, I'd love you to back this up.[/QUOTE]

    That would be incorrect.

    Here's a confirmed miracle:

    http://righterreport.com/2007/07/14/...ing-a-miracle/

    Also, miracles have now been documented.

    http://www.amazon.com/Miracles-Credi.../dp/0801039525
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    Re: The lost tomb of Jesus? Scientist claims he has 'virtually unequivocal evidence'

    Quote Originally Posted by Dovkan View Post
    Yes, they also have archaeological evidence from events inside of many books, their is no evidence for any of the supposed "miracles" or unrealistic claims. Also, I'd love you to back this up.
    That would be incorrect.

    Here's a confirmed miracle:

    http://righterreport.com/2007/07/14/...ing-a-miracle/

    Also, miracles have now been documented.

    http://www.amazon.com/Miracles-Credi.../dp/0801039525
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