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    Re: The lost tomb of Jesus? Scientist claims he has 'virtually unequivocal evidence'

    Quote Originally Posted by Fenton View Post
    So Peter directly passing down his eyewitness accounts to Mark wouldn't qualify as a eyewitness account ?

    As an example I could give eyewitness accounts of things my Grandfather did 30 years ago to my son.

    Does that make those accounts false ?
    Indubitably 30 years later there would be inaccuracies, and that's the point. This has been tested and proven many times throughout history. And not only that, until the Protestant reformation, and better publishing abilities, the corrupt Catholic Church was in control of the "scriptures" and their duplication. Dubious at best.
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    Re: The lost tomb of Jesus? Scientist claims he has 'virtually unequivocal evidence'

    Quote Originally Posted by Fenton View Post
    The Gospels were eyewitness accounts.
    Actually, they weren't. The first gospel to be written was Mark at about 70AD, followed by Matthew and Luke in the 80's or 90's.

    The first actual Christian writings were by Paul, 1 Thessalonians 51AD, Philippines and Philemon 52-54AD, 1 Corinthians 53-54AD, Galatians 55AD, 2 Corinthians 55-56AD, and Romans 56-58AD.

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    Re: The lost tomb of Jesus? Scientist claims he has 'virtually unequivocal evidence'

    Quote Originally Posted by Fenton View Post
    So Peter directly passing down his eyewitness accounts to Mark wouldn't qualify as a eyewitness account ?

    As an example I could give eyewitness accounts of things my Grandfather did 30 years ago to my son.

    Does that make those accounts false ?
    Do you understand what 'eyewitness' means? Receiving information from someone *supposedly* an eyewitness to an event doesn't make one an eyewitness. Does it make them inherently false? No. But it casts room for doubt.

    We know the natural order of life and death. A resurrection is not part of that. So more is needed than someone saying 'yeah, he rose from the dead' and telling to someone who wrote it 50+ years later. Tell me, do you think all of the gospels are overlap?
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    Re: The lost tomb of Jesus? Scientist claims he has 'virtually unequivocal evidence'

    Quote Originally Posted by Fenton View Post
    So Peter directly passing down his eyewitness accounts to Mark wouldn't qualify as a eyewitness account ?

    As an example I could give eyewitness accounts of things my Grandfather did 30 years ago to my son.

    Does that make those accounts false ?
    hearsay (n.) - the report of another person's words by a witness, usually disallowed as evidence in a court of law.

    This doesn't make it incorrect, but in modern times it makes it inadmissible as evidence. And it certainly isn't the same as an eyewitness account.
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    Re: The lost tomb of Jesus? Scientist claims he has 'virtually unequivocal evidence'

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    There is no attack on Christianity, especially in the West. To say so is delusional.
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    Re: The lost tomb of Jesus? Scientist claims he has 'virtually unequivocal evidence'

    Atheist, wow big jump from what I said to that, First I'm not a Atheist, I'm a Christian but not in the same mold as you and I find it a hoot that you think your way is the only way.

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    Re: The lost tomb of Jesus? Scientist claims he has 'virtually unequivocal evidence'

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    And "Love does no harm to a neighbor" (Romans 13), like enticing one's neighbor into a sinful relationship for which there are negative temporal and eternal consequences.

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    Re: The lost tomb of Jesus? Scientist claims he has 'virtually unequivocal evidence'

    Quote Originally Posted by zgoldsmith23 View Post
    Not even close. Written after Jesus' death.
    I believe your dating is wrong for the Gospels and eyewitnesses. Here's a more scholarly view on that:

    A Chronological Order of The New Testament Books

    All dates within the probable lifetimes of the Gospel authors and eyewitnesses.

    Also, the earliest mention of the resurrection was likely less than a decade after the event.

    Earliest Mention of the Resurrection of Jesus Christ « The Righter Report
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    Re: The lost tomb of Jesus? Scientist claims he has 'virtually unequivocal evidence'

    Quote Originally Posted by Fenton View Post
    So Peter directly passing down his eyewitness accounts to Mark wouldn't qualify as a eyewitness account ?

    As an example I could give eyewitness accounts of things my Grandfather did 30 years ago to my son.

    Does that make those accounts false ?
    That is not an eyewitness account as you didn't witness it. It's hearsay. It doesn't necessarily mean it's false, but it's not eyewitness. Ever play that game "telephone"? Messages become garbled over many retellings. That's why many of the old stories, before printing was a viable thing, were put to song.
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