Page 22 of 28 FirstFirst ... 122021222324 ... LastLast
Results 211 to 220 of 280

Thread: Rand Paul announces presidential run

  1. #211
    Sage


    Join Date
    Feb 2013
    Location
    IL
    Last Seen
    Today @ 02:00 AM
    Gender
    Lean
    Moderate
    Posts
    36,147

    Re: Rand Paul announces presidential run

    Quote Originally Posted by Montecresto View Post
    Oh I know. There can't be a primary season with every republican that there is running for president without some really good entertainment. I went on line and ordered a 100lb. bag of popcorn. I'm ready.
    Using the sports analogy, this is preseason or exhibition for sure.
    It all starts in earnest on that Ohio stage in August where I hope Ohio's Gov. Kasich steps up and brings normalcy to the GOP .
    Physics is Phun

  2. #212
    Sage


    Join Date
    Feb 2013
    Location
    IL
    Last Seen
    Today @ 02:00 AM
    Gender
    Lean
    Moderate
    Posts
    36,147

    Re: Rand Paul announces presidential run

    Quote Originally Posted by Fiddytree View Post
    I think Rand needs more time in the oven, but he's got everything a fusionist conservative would want. Libertarian ideas meshed with aspects of so-called traditional conservatism. If you want a blueprint for a Reagan-like candidate on platform issues and with some amount of gravitas, Rand is about it.
    But Reagan did not have GOP swift boaters after him on the day before he announced--two different hit ads worth a million dollars.
    But RWR did have "voodoo economics" to deal with, so he made him his VP .
    Physics is Phun

  3. #213
    Sage


    Join Date
    Feb 2013
    Location
    IL
    Last Seen
    Today @ 02:00 AM
    Gender
    Lean
    Moderate
    Posts
    36,147

    Re: Rand Paul announces presidential run

    Quote Originally Posted by CanadaJohn View Post
    It's petty, but Huntsman's big problem in 2011/12, in my opinion, was his linkage to Obama as the Ambassador to China. Christie has a similar taint, related to the Hurricane Sandy photo ops. Politics can be funny that way and little things can kill a national campaign. Huntsman was and is a rational, well spoken, reasoned individual, but I don't see him getting back in this time around. He wouldn't be a bad VP pick, however - Romney would have done better with him than Ryan.
    If Romney takes Sen. Portman, the election was his.
    At this moment in time, any POTUS candidate that is a governor will need to balance with a Senator/Representative--or vice-versa, IMHO.
    Like Nixon (Gov. Agnew), Reagan, Clinton and Bush-43 did .
    Physics is Phun

  4. #214
    Sage


    Join Date
    Feb 2013
    Location
    IL
    Last Seen
    Today @ 02:00 AM
    Gender
    Lean
    Moderate
    Posts
    36,147

    Re: Rand Paul announces presidential run

    Quote Originally Posted by catch22 View Post
    Wow I've never done much research on Huntsman but just spent about 30 minutes researching him.
    He's a guy we need in the Whitehouse! Was he too middle of the road to previously get the nomination?
    Gov. Huntsman was the only debater on stage who raised his hand that he would agree to a 10-for-one swap in cuts to new revenues.
    Similar to a Back-in-Black plan written by Sen. Coburn in 2011, promptly trashed by both extremes.

    As for the middle of the road with the GOP, that would be with the Elites/AAN who are currently attacking the TEAs/Freedom Caucus in their own CDs.
    Similar to what the GOP swift boaters started right away on Sen. Paul .
    Physics is Phun

  5. #215
    cookies crumble
    ARealConservative's Avatar
    Join Date
    Oct 2006
    Last Seen
    04-21-17 @ 08:41 PM
    Gender
    Lean
    Libertarian
    Posts
    14,518

    Re: Rand Paul announces presidential run

    Quote Originally Posted by MMC View Post
    [COLOR="#800000"][B]Yes, voting is a force too.
    why is voting force?

  6. #216
    Sage


    Join Date
    Feb 2013
    Location
    IL
    Last Seen
    Today @ 02:00 AM
    Gender
    Lean
    Moderate
    Posts
    36,147

    Re: Rand Paul announces presidential run

    Quote Originally Posted by Sherman123 View Post
    I'm pretty pleased at how much enthusiasm for Rand has evaporated over the past few years.
    I'm honestly hoping he does poorly if only to put another bullet into the anti-interventionist/isolationist wing of our party*.
    Which is why the dark-money GOP Elite swift-boaters are going for Sen. Paul's throat from day one.

    So far the only candidates that seem possibly appealing to me are Rubio, Bush, Graham, and maybe Chris Christie.
    Who are all war-mongering NeoCons--part of the Adelson/Elite crowd with which the Nation is sick.

    *Though I am pretty impressed at how open he was about his hypothetical plans for criminal justice reform on his campaign website
    and I'd like to see that issue raised forcefully in debates
    Which is why he will appeal to the Black community and the Young,
    especially in OPEN primaries like New Hampshire, Texas, and South Carolina--to name three.

    Election 2016 - Presidential Primaries, Caucuses, and Conventions
    Physics is Phun

  7. #217
    Sage
    Sherman123's Avatar
    Join Date
    Jul 2012
    Location
    Northeast US
    Last Seen
    09-08-17 @ 06:00 PM
    Gender
    Lean
    Undisclosed
    Posts
    7,774

    Re: Rand Paul announces presidential run

    Quote Originally Posted by NIMBY View Post
    Which is why the dark-money GOP Elite swift-boaters are going for Sen. Paul's throat from day one.



    Who are all war-mongering NeoCons--part of the Adelson/Elite crowd with which the Nation is sick.



    Which is why he will appeal to the Black community and the Young,
    especially in OPEN primaries like New Hampshire, Texas, and South Carolina--to name three.

    Election 2016 - Presidential Primaries, Caucuses, and Conventions
    I'm a unashamed neoconservative who supports the establishment wing of the party. I'm pleased that people are deluded enough to actually think that Rand will sweep up minorities and win himself the primary. This sort of mentality will make the fall that much harsher when he comes up short. I can only hope it will finally disabuse people of the notion that you can hold such heterodox views and have such a checkered past and still be a serious candidate.

  8. #218
    Banned
    Join Date
    Feb 2012
    Location
    Chicago Illinois
    Last Seen
    10-14-15 @ 08:28 AM
    Gender
    Lean
    Private
    Posts
    56,981

    Re: Rand Paul announces presidential run

    Quote Originally Posted by NIMBY View Post
    Until 2020, when Sen. Paul will be a sitting Senator without that pressure.
    If he ever gets a billionaire or two behind him, he'll develop a formidable 50-state slate up and down the ballot, state and federal.
    Making the Libertarian party the real deal as a 3rd party.

    Watching Tiger today--he made the tour what it is today as we know it ?


    We will see how long he sticks around in DC.....or if he will remember when he said it can't be changed from the inside.

  9. #219
    cookies crumble
    ARealConservative's Avatar
    Join Date
    Oct 2006
    Last Seen
    04-21-17 @ 08:41 PM
    Gender
    Lean
    Libertarian
    Posts
    14,518

    Re: Rand Paul announces presidential run

    Quote Originally Posted by Sherman123 View Post
    I'm a unashamed neoconservative who supports the establishment wing of the party. I'm pleased that people are deluded enough to actually think that Rand will sweep up minorities and win himself the primary. This sort of mentality will make the fall that much harsher when he comes up short. I can only hope it will finally disabuse people of the notion that you can hold such heterodox views and have such a checkered past and still be a serious candidate.
    your ideas are old and dead. Rand Paul might not win the primary, but your ideology is dead in the GOP in a national election. you might win off year election cycles, for the next 6-8 years, but with each passing year, you become more of a footnote in a historical dustbin.

  10. #220
    Sage
    Sherman123's Avatar
    Join Date
    Jul 2012
    Location
    Northeast US
    Last Seen
    09-08-17 @ 06:00 PM
    Gender
    Lean
    Undisclosed
    Posts
    7,774

    Re: Rand Paul announces presidential run

    Quote Originally Posted by ARealConservative View Post
    your ideas are old and dead. Rand Paul might not win the primary, but your ideology is dead in the GOP in a national election. you might win off year election cycles, for the next 6-8 years, but with each passing year, you become more of a footnote in a historical dustbin.
    For being 'old and dead' we continue to dominate the party, consistently nominate our candidates to the top of the ticket, and routinely crush incipient intraparty electoral rebellions. Railing against the establishment and claiming that it's 'dead' is the classic refrain of those on the fringes of politics desperate to believe that final victory is actually in sight.

Page 22 of 28 FirstFirst ... 122021222324 ... LastLast

Posting Permissions

  • You may not post new threads
  • You may not post replies
  • You may not post attachments
  • You may not edit your posts
  •