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    Re: Rand Paul announces presidential run

    Quote Originally Posted by CanadaJohn View Post
    It's petty, but Huntsman's big problem in 2011/12, in my opinion, was his linkage to Obama as the Ambassador to China. Christie has a similar taint, related to the Hurricane Sandy photo ops. Politics can be funny that way and little things can kill a national campaign. Huntsman was and is a rational, well spoken, reasoned individual, but I don't see him getting back in this time around. He wouldn't be a bad VP pick, however - Romney would have done better with him than Ryan.
    Not petty at all, as I think a lot of people felt the same way. It's actually too bad, too, because Huntsman is no Obama (thank doG) and Obama tapping him for Ambassador to China was one of the few good decisions he made. Obama also tapped my former Senator Judd Gregg (R-NH) as Commerce Secretary. Gregg declined the job. Obama did have some relatively centrist Republicans in his scope at the beginning.

    Huntsman was one of the best political candidates I'd seen in years. I'm sorry not enough other people saw it as I did.
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    Re: Rand Paul announces presidential run

    Quote Originally Posted by catch22 View Post
    Wow I've never done much research on Huntsman but just spent about 30 minutes researching him. He's a guy we need in the Whitehouse! Was he too middle of the road to previously get the nomination?
    Huntsman was the candidate that best represented my beliefs in the last 7 Presidential campaigns. He's a low tax, pro-business, socially moderate conservative. I just liked almost everything about him. I think he didn't get the reception here in NH that he thought he would. We have an open primary here so independents can vote for either party. Huntsman finished 3rd and I really believed he would win. I think the 3rd place showing in NH, where we have a lot of people like me (socially moderate, fiscally conservative), didn't bode well for him.
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    Re: Rand Paul announces presidential run


    Sanders is Right.....we do need a Political Revolution in this Country. Force the Libertarians and Tea Party to be their own parties.

    Then the same for the Left between the Libs and Progressives and socialists.

    Although, the Democrats have not been this week since the Civil War. They only control fully 7 States. Now is the time to destroy their Party. Force them to break up. Hopefully it will cause them to panic and start another Civil War. That which the left won't be able to handle nor most of them survive. It will get rid of many of the problems the country has. Permanently!

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    Re: Rand Paul announces presidential run

    Quote Originally Posted by MMC View Post
    Sanders is Right.Force the Libertarians and Tea Party to be their own parties.
    you can try.

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    Re: Rand Paul announces presidential run

    Quote Originally Posted by ARealConservative View Post
    you can try.
    Do they really want to be associated to the Republican Party? I would be more interested in seeing the Demos be broken up from the inside out.

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    Re: Rand Paul announces presidential run

    Quote Originally Posted by MMC View Post
    Do they really want to be associated to the Republican Party? I would be more interested in seeing the Demos be broken up from the inside out.
    it is a two party system.

    each party votes on what color their spots are, where the spots are placed, and what the spots mean over and over and over.

    but It doesn't surprise me you see the solution as forcing people to act according to your wishes. "force them out" is your rally cry.

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    Re: Rand Paul announces presidential run

    Quote Originally Posted by ARealConservative View Post
    it is a two party system.

    each party votes on what color their spots are, where the spots are placed, and what the spots mean over and over and over.

    but It doesn't surprise me you see the solution as forcing people to act according to your wishes. "force them out" is your rally cry.


    Yeah its a two party system.....which has been fracturing within each Party's side. Which always effects elections. Sometimes enough to cause a win, for someone who shouldn't have won.

    Still, you didn't answer the question. Which was.....Do they really want to be associated to the Republican Party?

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    Re: Rand Paul announces presidential run

    Quote Originally Posted by Lovebug View Post
    The difference between him changing his mind and others, who ran before him, is that he does so from conviction, not because it is from where the political wind is blowing. Far more refreshing than a Romney or Obama "yeah, I can be that guy if you want me to" approach.
    The political climate changes, and a leader/potential leader must look at all facts before deciding. Things happen.
    Someone on TV brought up a good point last night. Clinton, Bush, Obama all made promises to do this or that, but when the situation changed, they had to adjust. Nothing wrong with that.
    And needless to say, most of us are capable of changing our opinion as we move along, are we discover facts. Nothing wrong with that either. Stubbornly insisting it must be this or that, now that is very wrong.
    There is absolutely no evidence of that. In fact the circumstances point to the opposite. Funny how Paul only articulates mainstream republican ideas when it looks like he has a chance to run for president. Paul is closer to the GOP version of Obama than anyone. First term senator, anti-Washington outsider candidate, radical ideas that switch to main stream while running for president. Saw this movie already, no thanks.

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    Re: Rand Paul announces presidential run

    Quote Originally Posted by MMC View Post
    Yeah its a two party system.....which has been fracturing within each Party's side. Which always effects elections. Sometimes enough to cause a win, for someone who shouldn't have won.

    Still, you didn't answer the question. Which was.....Do they really want to be associated to the Republican Party?
    who is they?

    Rand is already associated with the party. He won an election,so those who support him are already associated with the party.

    you need to start making sense 48k posts, and most are nonsensical.

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    Re: Rand Paul announces presidential run

    Quote Originally Posted by ARealConservative View Post
    who is they?

    Rand is already associated with the party. He won an election,so those who support him are already associated with the party.

    you need to start making sense 48k posts, and most are nonsensical.


    Libertarians and Tea Partiers.

    Of course most of them are associated with the party now. We were talking about the parties being broken up, remember?

    Oh and you would know this when half the time you are running around here playing like in a comedy club. Yet your into politics Right. Yeah whatever.

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