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    Re: Rand Paul announces presidential run

    Quote Originally Posted by NIMBY View Post
    Not if you want to take a chance of losing two DEM Senators.
    The Northeast is clearly swinging back to left-of-center and even center.

    And they're too far left for the American voters who actually vote.

    I'm more amused at how much the GOP fears him and has started these multi-million dollar hit ad campaigns right away .
    Politics sucks
    Meh, I'd rather risk Bernie/Warren and get real issues into the ears of the american public.

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    Re: Rand Paul announces presidential run

    Quote Originally Posted by tres borrachos View Post
    I only think his foreign policy is off from where it should be. A lot of the other things he's said make sense to me. I don't pay attention to the religious stuff (from either side).
    Depends on what you think foreign policy should be, Rand went from an isolationist who was against the Iraq war and wanted to negotiate with Iran to having a war boner for ISIS and signing the GOPs senate letter against Iran. So his foreign policy has been all over the scale, give him enough time and Im sure he will take what position you want him to at some point.

    I was more talking about some of the crazier stuff he has said. Like when his campaign communications director said that the govt perpetrated 9/11 and Rand refused to deny that idea saying there was "truth on both sides". Really? someone who wants to be president cant even forcefully say that the govt didnt commit 9/11. **** that Id vote for Hillary before Rand

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    Re: Rand Paul announces presidential run

    Quote Originally Posted by Dovkan View Post
    Sanders/Warren is the dream.
    Wasn't Warren the one that misrepresented her ethnicity for political gain. What we know of her politics, which really is not that much, is very good, but I do have a problem with her doing that.
    Killing one person is murder, killing 100,000 is foreign policy

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    Re: Rand Paul announces presidential run

    Quote Originally Posted by Montecresto View Post
    Wasn't Warren the one that misrepresented her ethnicity for political gain. What we know of her politics, which really is not that much, is very good, but I do have a problem with her doing that.
    Meh, not even close to as bad as what others have done.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dovkan View Post
    Meh, not even close to as bad as what others have done.
    Well we certainly agree on that, but, I want a cleaner slate than that. Sanders is very cool.
    Killing one person is murder, killing 100,000 is foreign policy

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    Re: Rand Paul announces presidential run

    Quote Originally Posted by Napoleon View Post
    The problem with Romney and Ryan was that their answer to just about everything was either:

    A) We'll bomb it.

    B) We don't know, but we'll form a committee to figure it out after you elect us.

    Answer B was the CEO talking. We don't need a President who can't think for himself or plot out his own ideas.
    Not that I accept your first two points, but President Obama certainly proves your last point.
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    Re: Rand Paul announces presidential run

    Quote Originally Posted by azgreg View Post
    Unusual News - Learning From Defeat

    Learning From Defeat…31 of 43 Presidents Lost Elections before Winning Presidency
    How many libertarians? But that doesnt change my opinion. Hes taking away the ability of others to step forward. Same thing is going on with Hillary. Shes sucking up all the oxygen.

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    Re: Rand Paul announces presidential run

    Quote Originally Posted by Dovkan View Post
    Sanders/Warren is the dream.
    I would love to see socialists get 20% of the vote. That would be very revealing.

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    Re: Rand Paul announces presidential run

    So he is expressing concerns about Emanuel being funded by the wealthy. Who the hell does he think will make enough donations to fund his campaign, should he decide to run? He would have to run one hell of an appealing campaign to even make enough waives for anyone to send him money. Sorry folks, that is the way it is.
    If we don't think RP is going anywhere, BS won't either. (BS, I just noticed that. Not a good thing)

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    Re: Rand Paul announces presidential run

    Quote Originally Posted by Crovax View Post
    Depends on what you think foreign policy should be, Rand went from an isolationist who was against the Iraq war and wanted to negotiate with Iran to having a war boner for ISIS and signing the GOPs senate letter against Iran. So his foreign policy has been all over the scale, give him enough time and Im sure he will take what position you want him to at some point.

    I was more talking about some of the crazier stuff he has said. Like when his campaign communications director said that the govt perpetrated 9/11 and Rand refused to deny that idea saying there was "truth on both sides". Really? someone who wants to be president cant even forcefully say that the govt didnt commit 9/11. **** that Id vote for Hillary before Rand
    The difference between him changing his mind and others, who ran before him, is that he does so from conviction, not because it is from where the political wind is blowing. Far more refreshing than a Romney or Obama "yeah, I can be that guy if you want me to" approach.
    The political climate changes, and a leader/potential leader must look at all facts before deciding. Things happen.
    Someone on TV brought up a good point last night. Clinton, Bush, Obama all made promises to do this or that, but when the situation changed, they had to adjust. Nothing wrong with that.
    And needless to say, most of us are capable of changing our opinion as we move along, are we discover facts. Nothing wrong with that either. Stubbornly insisting it must be this or that, now that is very wrong.

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