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    Re: Schumer: Let Congress decide on Iran deal

    When the terrorist group Hezbollah and Obama are both praising this deal with Iran what does that say?

    Hezbollah praises US-Iran nuclear deal as 'victory' - Middle East - Jerusalem Post

    Today an Arab paper say they have proof that Hezbollah and Iran trained the Houthis to harm Yemenis.

    http://english.alarabiya.net/en/News...-Yemenis-.html

    About 8 weeks ago Hebollah attacked Israel with a salvo of advanced missiles. And it was barely covered in the MSM.
    Hezbollah Attacks Israel, Uses New Advanced Weaponry

    I hope Schumer is serious. Because Congress is the last hope of stopping this administration from passing a bad deal. Someone has got to become the grownups in the room. There's still 579 days till the next election.

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    Re: Schumer: Let Congress decide on Iran deal

    Quote Originally Posted by Fearandloathing View Post
    All agreements between two countries are considered a treaty. The US constitution is clear, congress shall "advise and consent"...

    but then there's actually people who think Obama actually cares whether he gets a deal or not and equals his predecessor and husband of the next in line. He doesn't, even if the talks now fail he has his reply "they scuttled a good deal"

    Americans keep thinking this guy care about the issues as opposed to his "legacy"
    This is all about Obama's legacy.
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    Re: Schumer: Let Congress decide on Iran deal

    Quote Originally Posted by Montecresto View Post
    I'm not betting on anything though.
    Well, in a way we are.

    The US (and the other countries negotiating with Iran) are betting that the nuclear talks with Iran will be successful, that Iran won't build a bomb, and there won't be a ME nuclear arms race.

    And all this is betting that the UN inspectors will discover any illegal or non-sanctioned nuclear development by Iran, betting they won't be blocked from the sites they want to inspect, and betting that Iran will comply with the restrictions as stated in the framework as well as any following negotiated deal.

    This is where Obama and Kerry want to the US to place their 'bets', as it were.
    Disinformation campaign? The Russian collusion meme pushed by the 'news' media, behaving as a political propaganda organ, hell bent to destroy a legitimately elected president to implement his agenda per the votes of the same electorate. Reference The Big Lie Reference Goebbels

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    Re: Schumer: Let Congress decide on Iran deal

    Quote Originally Posted by vesper View Post
    When the terrorist group Hezbollah and Obama are both praising this deal with Iran what does that say?
    Nothin' good, that's for sure.
    Quote Originally Posted by vesper View Post
    Hezbollah praises US-Iran nuclear deal as 'victory' - Middle East - Jerusalem Post

    Today an Arab paper say they have proof that Hezbollah and Iran trained the Houthis to harm Yemenis.

    http://english.alarabiya.net/en/News...-Yemenis-.html
    Another proxy war by Iran, billing the vacuum left by US departure and disengagement.
    Quote Originally Posted by vesper View Post
    About 8 weeks ago Hebollah attacked Israel with a salvo of advanced missiles. And it was barely covered in the MSM.
    Hezbollah Attacks Israel, Uses New Advanced Weaponry
    Typical.
    Quote Originally Posted by vesper View Post
    I hope Schumer is serious. Because Congress is the last hope of stopping this administration from passing a bad deal. Someone has got to become the grownups in the room. There's still 579 days till the next election.
    Passing what appears to be a bad deal. Some here and elsewhere are touting how good their work is. I'm not at all convinced of how good the deal is, nor am I at all convinced that Iran will abide by their agreements and commitments. Some are saying 'trust but verify', well, that's prefaced on the assumption that the US inspectors will have the access they need to inspect and verify, and from what I'm hearing, Iran hasn't even lived up to that commitment.
    Disinformation campaign? The Russian collusion meme pushed by the 'news' media, behaving as a political propaganda organ, hell bent to destroy a legitimately elected president to implement his agenda per the votes of the same electorate. Reference The Big Lie Reference Goebbels

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    Re: Schumer: Let Congress decide on Iran deal

    Quote Originally Posted by iguanaman View Post
    So now you want to start a trade war with Europe? Is there anything worse than giving Iran the chance to not make an atomic bomb? Is there anything that will stop them if the US reneges on a possible agreement? No. in fact we will be telling them to hurry up and do it before we can attack them. Just like Bush did with N. Korea.

    The EU can't afford to lose business with the US. Moreover this isn't giving the Iranians a chance to not make a bomb.

    The Iranians are doing the same thing as NKorea did with Bill Clinton. Which is why the Iranians are using the NKoreas same end run play. No discussion on their Military Programs and their ballistics.

    Do you think the Iranians can be set up, and made so angry that they would do the Stupid and utter those 7 words we want to hear? That would be.....We Declare War on the United States.

    As then there is Only one response and Iran will no longer be a problem in the world anymore.

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    Re: Schumer: Let Congress decide on Iran deal

    Quote Originally Posted by tres borrachos View Post
    This is all about Obama's legacy.


    His administration has been that and only that...the "me" president
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    Re: Schumer: Let Congress decide on Iran deal

    Quote Originally Posted by MMC View Post
    The EU can't afford to lose business with the US. Moreover this isn't giving the Iranians a chance to not make a bomb.

    The Iranians are doing the same thing as NKorea did with Bill Clinton. Which is why the Iranians are using the NKoreas same end run play. No discussion on their Military Programs and their ballistics.

    Do you think the Iranians can be set up, and made so angry that they would do the Stupid and utter those 7 words we want to hear? That would be.....We Declare War on the United States.

    As then there is Only one response and Iran will no longer be a problem in the world anymore.
    At least you admit that you only want war with Iran. So many are claiming there are other alternatives to this agreement. Let the Israeli's do it since they are trying to kill the talks.

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    Re: Schumer: Let Congress decide on Iran deal

    Quote Originally Posted by iguanaman View Post
    At least you admit that you only want war with Iran. So many are claiming there are other alternatives to this agreement. Let the Israeli's do it since they are trying to kill the talks.
    Well not really, after I said there could still be a political negotiation and that the last resort that all are looking to avoid. Still might take place.

    All it takes is the Iranians to not agree or keep doing what they have been. Its a consideration that can't be taken off the table.....Correct?

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    Re: Schumer: Let Congress decide on Iran deal

    Quote Originally Posted by MMC View Post
    Well not really, after I said there could still be a political negotiation and that the last resort that all are looking to avoid. Still might take place.

    All it takes is the Iranians to not agree or keep doing what they have been. Its a consideration that can't be taken off the table.....Correct?
    No I don't think we will invade Iran EVEN if they continue to make a bomb. We might try to bomb them but it will only delay the inevitable and cause even more unrest inthe area. The best hope is to make it better for Iran to not make a bomb. Threatening invasion will only harden their resolve.

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    Re: Schumer: Let Congress decide on Iran deal

    Quote Originally Posted by tres borrachos View Post
    This is all about Obama's legacy.
    You mean the legacy of being a relatively moderate president, who makes pragmatic policy decisions in the best strategic and economic interest of his country. Sounds like a legacy Obama should continue to pursue.

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