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    Re: Schumer: Let Congress decide on Iran deal

    Quote Originally Posted by MMC View Post
    Mornin Lady P. Well As you can see Corker will have the votes to override BO this time. It is something that BO needs to experience. Another first for him and with more to come.
    Is it not in the Presidents power to do this?
    Would it take more than a law from Congress to limit this?
    Quote Originally Posted by Erod View Post
    The damage to the black community from all this will be devastating.
    Not only on public perception and reputation, but cops simply won't want to police these neighborhoods anymore.
    The shooter was later found to be white.

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    Re: Schumer: Let Congress decide on Iran deal

    Quote Originally Posted by eohrnberger View Post
    Point here being that Iran is already cheating, as listed below, and we continue to believe that they won't.


    I think trusting Iran, expecting Iran to comply with something they are already cheating at now, isn't a wise course.

    Sure, trust buy verify, not much verify there (or trust for that matter) when verification is already being thwarted, and is only likely to get worse, right?
    There are alot of very knowlegable people that disagree.

    The framework agreement announced by the P5+1 and Iran is--from a nuclear nonproliferation and security standpoint--a vitally important step forward. When implemented, it will put in place an effective, verifiable, enforceable, long-term plan to guard against the possibility of a new nuclear-armed state in the Middle East.

    The agreement comprehensively addresses the key routes by which Iran could acquire material for nuclear weapons. Among other steps, the framework agreement will:

    significantly reduce Iran's capacity to enrich uranium to the point that it would take at least 12 months to amass enough uranium enriched to weapons grade for one bomb;
    require Iran to modify its Arak heavy water reactor to meaningfully reduce its proliferation potential and bar Iran from developing any capability for separating plutonium from spent fuel for weapons;
    put in place enhanced international inspections and monitoring that would help to deter Iran from attempting to violate the agreement, but if Iran did, increase the international community's ability to detect promptly and, if necessary, disrupt future efforts by Iran to build nuclear weapons, including at potential undeclared sites; and
    require Iran to cooperate with the IAEA to conclude the investigation of Iran's past efforts to develop a nuclear warhead and provide transparency sufficient to help ensure that any such effort remains in abeyance.
    The agreement will strengthen U.S. security and that of our partners in the region.
    The P5+1 Nuclear Agreement With Iran: A Net-Plus for Nonproliferation | Arms Control Association

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    Re: Schumer: Let Congress decide on Iran deal

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    It didn't leave out that part about the N Koreans having a weapons Program the entire time with Clinton. Despite inspections and up to the day they turned off the cameras and said no more inspections. All the while gaining enough plutonium for their first couple of Nukes and then some. All under Bilbo's very eyes while he gave them money and Food. Plus Fuel that was alleged couldn't be turned into weapons grade.

    Moreover you don't have much concerning China and their involvement when Bush stepped in.

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    Re: Schumer: Let Congress decide on Iran deal

    Quote Originally Posted by JANFU View Post
    Is it not in the Presidents power to do this?
    Would it take more than a law from Congress to limit this?
    Heya JF. To do what? He can't get around Congress.

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    Re: Schumer: Let Congress decide on Iran deal

    Quote Originally Posted by iguanaman View Post
    Cool!

    (Washington, D.C.)--A group of 30 leading nuclear nonproliferation specialists, primarily from the United States, issued a joint statement today assessing the framework deal announced by the P5+1 and Iran on April 2 as a "vitally important step forward" for nonproliferation and international security.

    But the "DP experts" disagree!!!!
    Killing one person is murder, killing 100,000 is foreign policy

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    Re: Schumer: Let Congress decide on Iran deal

    Quote Originally Posted by MMC View Post
    Heya JF. To do what? He can't get around Congress.
    The President does have the power-authorial to sign this deal does he not? It has to come from some precedent that provides any President this authority?
    Then the kicker- If refused does anyone think the other countries will keep their sanctions in place?
    The reputation of the US takes a **** kicking then does it not for future issues such as this?
    Quote Originally Posted by Erod View Post
    The damage to the black community from all this will be devastating.
    Not only on public perception and reputation, but cops simply won't want to police these neighborhoods anymore.
    The shooter was later found to be white.

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    Re: Schumer: Let Congress decide on Iran deal

    Quote Originally Posted by JANFU View Post
    The President does have the power-authorial to sign this deal does he not? It has to come from some precedent that provides any President this authority?
    Then the kicker- If refused does anyone think the other countries will keep their sanctions in place?
    The reputation of the US takes a **** kicking then does it not for future issues such as this?

    He can't remove the sanctions imposed by Congress.....despite his signing this deal. When he actually has one.

    What he has Right now is what Clinton came up with. That Framework understanding.

    Even if they don't keep their sanctions in place. Will they go ahead and conduct business and then lose money with the US? Can the Europeans afford to lose business with the US?

    As that can be a response too.

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    Re: Schumer: Let Congress decide on Iran deal

    Quote Originally Posted by MMC View Post
    He can't remove the sanctions imposed by Congress.....despite his signing this deal. When he actually has one.

    What he has Right now is what Clinton came up with. That Framework understanding.

    Even if they don't keep their sanctions in place. Will they go ahead and conduct business and then lose money with the US? Can the Europeans afford to lose business with the US?

    As that can be a response too.
    I understand about the sanctions Congress imposed- they have to approve lifting them.
    You refer to Clinton and framework?? Have no idea of what this is based upon.
    As to the EU- Can the US economy afford to push it that far?
    Quote Originally Posted by Erod View Post
    The damage to the black community from all this will be devastating.
    Not only on public perception and reputation, but cops simply won't want to police these neighborhoods anymore.
    The shooter was later found to be white.

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    Re: Schumer: Let Congress decide on Iran deal

    Quote Originally Posted by JANFU View Post
    I understand about the sanctions Congress imposed- they have to approve lifting them.
    You refer to Clinton and framework?? Have no idea of what this is based upon.
    As to the EU- Can the US economy afford to push it that far?

    Post 29 shows what Clinton came up with. You can note how BOs arrangement mirrors Clinton's. To top it off Bo has the same woman who dropped the ball with the North Koreans working this deal.

    Oh, and just like the North Koreans. Iran is not discussing anything concerning their Military programs and ballistics.

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    Re: Schumer: Let Congress decide on Iran deal

    Quote Originally Posted by MMC View Post
    Post 29 shows what Clinton came up with. You can note how BOs arrangement mirrors Clinton's. To top it off Bo has the same woman who dropped the ball with the North Koreans working this deal.
    Thanks- hard to keep up at times.
    Quote Originally Posted by Erod View Post
    The damage to the black community from all this will be devastating.
    Not only on public perception and reputation, but cops simply won't want to police these neighborhoods anymore.
    The shooter was later found to be white.

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