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    Rolling Stone Retracts Rape Story..

    http://www.nytimes.com/2015/04/06/bu...inia.html?_r=0

    Rolling Stone magazine retracted its article about a brutal gang rape at a University of Virginia fraternity after the release of a report on Sunday that concluded the widely discredited piece was the result of failures at every stage of the process.

    The report, published by the Columbia Graduate School of Journalism and commissioned by Rolling Stone, said the magazine failed to engage in “basic, even routine journalistic practice” to verify details of the ordeal that the magazine’s source, identified only as Jackie, described to the article’s author, Sabrina Rubin Erdely.
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    Re: Rolling Stone Retracts Rape Story..

    Hopefully this doesn't deter victims of rape from coming forward, and being believed.

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    Re: Rolling Stone Retracts Rape Story..

    ...and hopefully people with the title of fact checker get fired when they don't actually check facts.

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    Re: Rolling Stone Retracts Rape Story..

    Quote Originally Posted by Amadeus View Post
    Hopefully this doesn't deter victims of rape from coming forward, and being believed.
    That's the problem with the belief that the Facts Matter Less Than The Narrative - it is, in effect, crying wolf, and it delegitimizes those who need real help.
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    Quote Originally Posted by cpwill View Post
    That's the problem with the belief that the Facts Matter Less Than The Narrative - it is, in effect, crying wolf, and it delegitimizes those who need real help.
    I agree. The problem is that false reports of rape constitute about 2% of all allegations.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Amadeus View Post
    I agree. The problem is that false reports of rape constitute about 2% of all allegations.
    That's an interesting statistic. Based on what?
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    Re: Rolling Stone Retracts Rape Story..

    These stats are stale and incomplete, but from Wiki:

    A false accusation of rape is the intentional reporting of a rape by an alleged victim where no rape has occurred. While it is difficult to assess the prevalence of false accusations due to such accusations being conflated with non-prosecuted cases as "unfounded", in the United States, the FBI Uniform Crime Report in 1996 and the United States Department of Justice in 1997 stated 8% of rape accusations in the United States were regarded as unfounded or false. Studies in other countries have reported their own rates at anywhere from 1.5% (Denmark) to 10% (Canada). Due to varying definitions of a "False Accusation", the true percentage of false accusations remains unknown. False accusation of rape - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

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    Re: Rolling Stone Retracts Rape Story..

    Quote Originally Posted by Fenton View Post
    http://www.nytimes.com/2015/04/06/bu...inia.html?_r=0

    Rolling Stone magazine retracted its article about a brutal gang rape at a University of Virginia fraternity after the release of a report on Sunday that concluded the widely discredited piece was the result of failures at every stage of the process.

    The report, published by the Columbia Graduate School of Journalism and commissioned by Rolling Stone, said the magazine failed to engage in “basic, even routine journalistic practice” to verify details of the ordeal that the magazine’s source, identified only as Jackie, described to the article’s author, Sabrina Rubin Erdely.
    The collateral damage from this disgraceful lack of journalistic ethics will go on for years. The anti-Greek people used this lie as a way to attempt to destroy the already vulnerable Greek system at colleges. UVA suffered unnecessary bad PR. It makes it less likely that women who are legitimately raped at college parties will come forward.

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    Re: Rolling Stone Retracts Rape Story..

    Quote Originally Posted by Amadeus View Post
    Hopefully this doesn't deter victims of rape from coming forward, and being believed.
    I don't see how an obvious liar can have that much of an impact on someone who was raped and whether or not that person comes forward.

    I do hope, however, that people stop swallowing the narrative Rolling Stone likes to push hook, line, and sinker.
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    Quote Originally Posted by cpwill View Post
    That's an interesting statistic. Based on what?
    MAAN » Myths about false accusation

    Only about 2% of all rape and related sex charges are determined to be false, the same percentage as for other felonies (FBI). So while they do happen, and they are very problematic when they do, people claim that allegations are false far more frequently than they are and far more frequently than for other crimes. Put another way, we are much more likely to disbelieve a woman if she says she was raped than if she says she was robbed, but for no good reason.

    On a related note, only about 40% of rapes are ever reported to the police, and this is partly because victims know that if their claim becomes public, their every behavior will be scrutinized, they will be shamed for their sexual history, and they will be labeled as lunatic, psychotic, paranoid, and manipulative. Just because someone does not report their crime does not mean it did not happen. Furthermore, only one in two claims lead to prosecution, so if the DA decides not to prosecute, that says nothing about whether or not it happened. (http://www.rainn.org/get-information...eporting-rates)

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