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    Re: Govít program would fly in Central American children to join parents in US

    Quote Originally Posted by Dovkan View Post
    I disagree with that sort of enforcement, but that is far from tyranny.
    Do you think tyranny happens overnight with a roar? Or do you think that it comes in quietly in order to gain enough power to actually enforce its tyranny?

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    The Constitution provides that an amendment may be proposed either by the Congress with a two-thirds majority vote in both the House of Representatives and the Senate or by a constitutional convention called for by two-thirds of the State legislatures. - I can see how well progress would be made this way
    We've had lots of amendments added to the Constitution. Obviously it can be done. People just have to be willing to work together and where necessary compromise.
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    Re: Govít program would fly in Central American children to join parents in US

    Quote Originally Posted by Dovkan View Post
    When did I say it wasn't an important document that had nothing to do with the government?
    There is a lot that isn't in the constitution, it's not meant to be strictly followed.
    I don't think the constitution addresses this issue at all.
    What do you mean "it's not meant to be strictly followed"? Is it meant to be just kind of followed?
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    Re: Govít program would fly in Central American children to join parents in US

    Quote Originally Posted by Anthony60 View Post
    What do you mean "it's not meant to be strictly followed"? Is it meant to be just kind of followed?
    It's meant as a framework, not a strict guideline. But that's how I view it.

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    Re: Govít program would fly in Central American children to join parents in US

    Quote Originally Posted by Dovkan View Post
    It's meant as a framework, not a strict guideline. But that's how I view it.
    I think it means what it says, to be followed as written. Just like laws are written. Certainly is not just a guide, or it would be worthless.
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    Re: Govít program would fly in Central American children to join parents in US

    Quote Originally Posted by Anthony60 View Post
    I think it means what it says, to be followed as written. Just like laws are written. Certainly is not just a guide, or it would be worthless.
    It is followed, but it's not meant as a document restricting everything not written within it, again, we fundamentally disagree.

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    Re: Govít program would fly in Central American children to join parents in US

    Quote Originally Posted by Kal'Stang View Post
    Do you think tyranny happens overnight with a roar? Or do you think that it comes in quietly in order to gain enough power to actually enforce its tyranny?



    We've had lots of amendments added to the Constitution. Obviously it can be done. People just have to be willing to work together and where necessary compromise.
    People just have to be willing to work together and where necessary compromise.
    - I'd love to see this happen, but I don't looking at the foreseeable future and the way the parties are currently behaving. You seriously think the United States is going towards tyranny?

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    Re: Govít program would fly in Central American children to join parents in US

    Quote Originally Posted by Dovkan View Post
    I'm fine with letting children be reunited with their parents
    It's all about bringing in more Welfare recipients/future Democrat voters at the expense of the taxpayers.

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    Re: Govít program would fly in Central American children to join parents in US

    I love how people love liberty so much that they can't be bothered to read past the headline or investigate the actually happenings in their government.

    Lynch mobs love to blame every one but their own actions.

    [/QApplications for this program are initiated in the United States. Beginning in December 2014, a
    parent lawfully present in the United States will be able to file Department of State form DS-
    7699 requesting a refugee resettlement interview for unmarried children under 21 in El Salvador,
    Guatemala, or Honduras. Under certain circumstances, if the second parent resides with the child
    in the home country and is currently married to the lawfully present parent in the United States, the second parent may be added to the child’s petition and considered for refugee status.
    http://static1.squarespace.com/stati...gram+Guide.pdf

    It is a sad day when the most trusted new organization in the world has to rely on the Daily Caller for new reports.


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    Re: Govít program would fly in Central American children to join parents in US

    Quote Originally Posted by Kal'Stang View Post
    1 American dollar = 14 Pesos.

    $7.25 at 40hrs a week for 4 weeks = $986 after taxes when claiming 0 on W2 (which means the most taxes taken out at minimum wage possible). Which equals out to 13,804 Pesos. I'm pretty sure that a legal resident could pay for a train ticket after saving for a few months.

    And no, I would not be surprised in the slightest. You see, I live paycheck to paycheck myself. I'm not rich or even middle class.
    He wouldn't have to save for a few months. Public transportation is cheap.

    Yoju can take a bus from one end of Mexico to the other for around $1500.00 pesos.

    That is about $100 USD.

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    Re: Govít program would fly in Central American children to join parents in US

    Quote Originally Posted by Kal'Stang View Post
    Which is why I added the part that you apparently missed....after saving for a few months.

    And by the by, I don't live with my parents. I have responsibility of 2 children and a wife. All without the benefits of Mom and Dad helping me out. And as a parent I can tell you straight up that I for one would NEVER have left my children behind in a 3rd world country. I would have stayed with them no matter what until I could figure out a way to get us all back together. Or I would die trying.
    That is the difference between the American mindset and the, well let's say Latino, mindset.

    Men leave their families, and women too, leaving the kids with relatives, sometimes distant relatives not caring what happens to them.

    It usually isn't a good outcome.

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