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    Re: Scott Walker's budget cuts $5.7 million from runoff pollution remedies

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    you apparently have a thing against him
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    Re: Scott Walker's budget cuts $5.7 million from runoff pollution remedies

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    Re: Scott Walker's budget cuts $5.7 million from runoff pollution remedies

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    Re: Scott Walker's budget cuts $5.7 million from runoff pollution remedies

    Democrats think that throwing tax money at a problem is "caring". Conversely, NOT throwing that tax money at the same problem is "hating". It doesn't even matter what the end results are. The truth of the matter is irrelevant, it's the GESTURE that counts.

    Is it any wonder that you Democrats have pretty much been voted out of this state?

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    Re: Scott Walker's budget cuts $5.7 million from runoff pollution remedies

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    In denial much? Or just in a parallel universe to the rest of the planet?
    I'm not the one who made up a whole bunch of stuff out of thin air

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    Re: Scott Walker's budget cuts $5.7 million from runoff pollution remedies

    Quote Originally Posted by ggwilder View Post
    Democrats think that throwing tax money at a problem is "caring". Conversely, NOT throwing that tax money at the same problem is "hating". It doesn't even matter what the end results are. The truth of the matter is irrelevant, it's the GESTURE that counts.

    Is it any wonder that you Democrats have pretty much been voted out of this state?
    Especially when it's somebody else's money

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    Re: Scott Walker's budget cuts $5.7 million from runoff pollution remedies

    Platforms stances on "liberty" (using social issues as started there and reading party platforms is a lot of skimming/getting bored of heavy wordiness)

    Republican platform:
    he lack of family formation not only leads to more government costs, but also to more government control over the lives of its citizens in all aspects. We recognize and honor the courageous efforts of those who bear the many burdens of parenting alone, even as we believe that marriage, the union of one man and one woman must be upheld as the national standard, a goal to stand for, encourage, and promote through laws governing marriage.
    Millions of Americans suffer from problem or pathological gambling that can destroy families. We support the prohibition of gambling over the Internet and call for reversal of the Justice Departmentís decision distorting the formerly accepted meaning of the Wire Act that could open the door to Internet betting.
    We do not believe, however, that healthcare providers should be allowed to withhold services because the healthcare provider believes the patientís life is not worth living.
    We are committed to aggressively pursuing tort reform legislation to help avoid the practice of defensive medicine, to keep healthcare costs low, and improve healthcare quality.
    https://gop.com/platform/

    Democratic Platform:
    At the core of the Democratic Party is the principle that no one should face discrimination on the basis of race, ethnicity, national origin, language, religion, gender, sexual orientation, gender identity, or disability status.
    The Democratic Party strongly and unequivocally supports Roe v. Wade and a woman's right to make decisions regarding her pregnancy, including a safe and legal abortion, regardless of ability to pay. We oppose any and all efforts to weaken or undermine that right.
    We support the right of all families to have equal respect, responsibilities, and protections under the law. We support marriage equality and support the movement to secure equal treatment under law for same-sex couples. We also support the freedom of churches and religious entities to decide how to administer marriage as a religious sacrament without government interference.
    The Democratic Party Platform | Democrats.org


    Libertarians
    Individuals should be free to make choices for themselves and to accept responsibility for the consequences of the choices they make.
    Recognizing that abortion is a sensitive issue and that people can hold good-faith views on all sides, we believe that government should be kept out of the matter, leaving the question to each person for their conscientious consideration.
    Sexual orientation, preference, gender, or gender identity should have no impact on the government's treatment of individuals, such as in current marriage, child custody, adoption, immigration or military service laws. Government does not have the authority to define, license or restrict personal relationships. Consenting adults should be free to choose their own sexual practices and personal relationships.
    Platform | Libertarian Party


    If you read through all of them (don't, at least the Republican/Democratic ones, they are so damn wordy it's painful), the liberty supported by either side is about the same. They support it on some issues, but not others. Libertarian party is about the only one that actually supports liberty

    And yes, I realize the partisans on all sides are going to ignore it and continue saying "nu-uh, our side loves freedom more!"

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    Re: Scott Walker's budget cuts $5.7 million from runoff pollution remedies

    Quote Originally Posted by DVSentinel View Post
    And watch even more businesses leave the state, true.

    BTW, how is that working out for Cali? Oh, yeah, businesses leaving by the loads and loosing about 500K a year in population. Way to go. Sure, we should all be following the example of the most bankrupt state in the Union.

    There is little doubt that competition is a big deal at the state level. But this should also show that race to the bottom is also a problem if the choice boils down to either higher taxes or taking business In exchange for green lakes.

    This is why I've started to believe that the federal government should be responsible for collecting the bulk of the taxes and the delivering the revenue to the states with an equation that is partly based on population. It is then a race to see who can spend those dollars more efficiently.

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    Re: Scott Walker's budget cuts $5.7 million from runoff pollution remedies

    Quote Originally Posted by pdog View Post
    There is little doubt that competition is a big deal at the state level. But this should also show that race to the bottom is also a problem if the choice boils down to either higher taxes or taking business In exchange for green lakes.

    This is why I've started to believe that the federal government should be responsible for collecting the bulk of the taxes and the delivering the revenue to the states with an equation that is partly based on population. It is then a race to see who can spend those dollars more efficiently.
    First, I don't see street runoff being a big pollution problem. Water has run off the land since there was water and land. Second, environmental and economic needs must balance. Third, if they really need this, then simply cut the budget for Welfare and Adult Medicaid.

    It's not a race to the bottom because only retarded greenie-weenie socialist think it is a problem, not normal intelligent people.
    Be sure to work hard and get lots of overtime. People on welfare want more steaks and free upgrades to smart phones with unlimited data packages.

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    Re: Scott Walker's budget cuts $5.7 million from runoff pollution remedies

    Quote Originally Posted by DVSentinel View Post
    First, I don't see street runoff being a big pollution problem. Water has run off the land since there was water and land.
    I'm sorry, but this is probably nearly is as ignorant as Rep. Stockman not understanding how sea level rise is caused by melting ice. Its not the water causing the problem, it's the modern chemicals that the water picks up that is causing the issue.


    Second, environmental and economic needs must balance.
    What is this "balance" that you speak of? What is the price associated to a dead lake? Plus, you present a false choice - who says environmental needs are NOT economic needs? Isn't this a perfect example of a race to the bottom? You seem to assert that a green lake is "balance". What about if the next state lowers their regulations or environmental funding? The first state has a green lake and nothing to show for it, while the state that just stole the business goes on it's way to creating it's own green lake

    Third, if they really need this, then simply cut the budget for Welfare and Adult Medicaid.
    This is not race to the bottom? Just because you have identified a program that you do not like, does that mean we're not eliminating programs for the sake of stealing business? What if we eliminate fire or police? Does that interest you?

    It's not a race to the bottom because only retarded greenie-weenie socialist think it is a problem, not normal intelligent people.
    Is this an argument of a "normal intelligent person"? Seems a little light on the intelligence to me.

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