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    Re: indiana caves on "RFRA", michigan governor says he would veto any "RFRA"

    Quote Originally Posted by Thrilla View Post
    if it was intended to allow discrimination, they wouldn't have added a clarification that resulted in the exact opposite of it's intent.

    from day 1, they were saying it was not a permit to discriminate... now we know they were telling the truth.
    you admitting as much in inconsequential to the fact.
    If they were telling the truth.....why are all the right-wingers upset about the change in the law?

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    Re: indiana caves on "RFRA", michigan governor says he would veto any "RFRA"

    Quote Originally Posted by Henrin View Post
    Because I oppose anti-discrimination laws and support human rights.

    LOL......riiiiiiiiiiiiiiight. Anti-discrimination does SUPPORT human rights. While it may be a human right to be a bigot...there is no human right to practice that bigotry against another person.

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    Re: indiana caves on "RFRA", michigan governor says he would veto any "RFRA"

    Quote Originally Posted by Cardinal View Post
    I guess because the infographic you posted is in big blue and red colors then it must be true. But let's look at this one claim that caught my attention...



    Interesting choice of words, don't you think? It's almost as if the writer was forced to tailor his wording because he was easily able to google instances where businesses besides hotels, restaurants and "major" retailers totally discriminated. And of course he almost certainly did, such as...



    The wording sneakily attempts to evade the fact that
    a)people discriminate (we know this to be true), and
    b)if people have no intention of discriminating, why then the enthusiasm over the right to do it? It makes no sense.
    Maybe, maybe not. Would have to have some sort of statement from the writer on that, I'm thinking.

    However, the point here being are all the claims and fauxrage driven, by large extent, by the Biased Lame Stream Media over the Indiana RFRA legislation being and / or promoting discrimination, when it is, nor does, either. This being demonstrated time and time again to a resounding silence of reporting by the Biased Lame Stream Media.
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    Re: indiana caves on "RFRA", michigan governor says he would veto any "RFRA"

    Quote Originally Posted by eohrnberger View Post
    Maybe, maybe not. Would have to have some sort of statement from the writer on that, I'm thinking.
    Oh, I'm pretty confident about that. If the writer had known that no business...ever...had discriminated against an lgbt on religious principle, he would have just written that. Instead he had to sneakily hone it down to "major" retailers, restaurants and hotels, probably because he couldn't find any instances of those on google.

    However, the point here being are all the claims and fauxrage driven, by large extent, by the Biased Lame Stream Media over the Indiana RFRA legislation being and / or promoting discrimination, when it is, nor does, either. This being demonstrated time and time again to a resounding silence of reporting by the Biased Lame Stream Media.
    And yet you have this statement by one of the legislator's pushing the original Indiana bill:

    Pence tried to downplay the law's impact Thursday, but his allies who pushed it in the legislature -- led by Eric Miller, the head of Advance America and a powerful lobbyist on socially conservative issues in Indiana, who stood behind Pence at Thursday's bill signing ceremony -- touted the protections it affords businesses against gays, lesbians and transgender Hoosiers.

    On his website, Miller highlighted examples of the law's effect: Christian bakers, florists and photographers won't have to participate in "homosexual marriage," he wrote, while Christian businesses won't be punished for "refusing to allow a man to use the women's restroom."
    Pence signs bill allowing businesses to reject gay customers - CNN.com

    This was clearly a freedom people wanted and which Miller was happy to give them. And as the youtube video demonstrates there will be people who will absolutely take advantage of that freedom because they've already done it.

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    Re: indiana caves on "RFRA", michigan governor says he would veto any "RFRA"

    true to their nature, the religious right has once again FAILED!!

    Their attempt to make discrimination against LGBT's created a backlash and now, for the first time in history, Indiana has a state law that protects LGBT's from discrimination by businesses. The american people, the people of Ind *and* even the GOP in Ind, has rejected the perverted morality and notions of "freedom" promoted by right wing bigots.
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    Re: indiana caves on "RFRA", michigan governor says he would veto any "RFRA"

    Quote Originally Posted by disneydude View Post
    LOL......riiiiiiiiiiiiiiight. Anti-discrimination does SUPPORT human rights. While it may be a human right to be a bigot...there is no human right to practice that bigotry against another person.
    Really? So how exactly does anti-discrimination laws support human rights?

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    Re: indiana caves on "RFRA", michigan governor says he would veto any "RFRA"

    Quote Originally Posted by Henrin View Post
    Really? So how exactly does anti-discrimination laws support human rights?
    First, you'd have to imagine yourself as an unpopular minority in a country whose overwhelming majority might not like you very much. But that would require the ability to think outside of yourself, and we both know that's a futile cause.

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    Re: indiana caves on "RFRA", michigan governor says he would veto any "RFRA"

    Quote Originally Posted by Cardinal View Post
    First, you'd have to imagine yourself as an unpopular minority in a country whose overwhelming majority might not like you very much. But that would require the ability to think outside of yourself, and we both know that's a futile cause.
    Second, I would have to imagine a world where people refusing to trade with others is a human right violation.

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    Re: indiana caves on "RFRA", michigan governor says he would veto any "RFRA"

    Quote Originally Posted by chromium View Post
    Looks like the backlash paid off, shanty pizza joints notwithstanding:

    "The compromise legislation specifies that the new religious freedom law cannot be used as a legal defense to discriminate against patrons based on their sexual orientation or gender identity."

    Indiana governor signs amended 'religious freedom' law

    Surely in response, michigan governor rick snyder did a very rare thing and revealed he would veto legislation ahead of time:

    "Given all the events that are happening in Indiana, I thought it would be good to clarify my position," he said. "I would veto RFRA legislation in Michigan if it is a standalone piece of legislation."

    Snyder: I would veto a religious freedom bill
    That cunning bastard gave himself wiggle room, . . . "if it is a standalone piece of legislation." So he is signaling to his legislature to embed it in something else, probably something important that "has" to be signed like a budget.
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    Re: indiana caves on "RFRA", michigan governor says he would veto any "RFRA"

    Quote Originally Posted by Henrin View Post
    Second, I would have to imagine a world where people refusing to trade with others is a human right violation.
    No need to get ahead of ourselves. Let's just work on the first one, then we can deal with the second.

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