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    Re: Indiana pizzeria that said it wouldn't cater gay weddings raises over 475K

    Quote Originally Posted by Bethlehem Bill View Post
    i get what you're saying in terms of prioritizing but this is a weak argument.

    by the same logic, why are any of the gay rights activists wasting their time and money fighting against a law in indiana? in iraq/syria they are still literally executing people for being homosexual and stoning to death women accused of adultery. these are not examples from 800 years in the past as some have tried use to make false equivalencies or excuses (e.g. well christians are bad too cuz the crusades)

    anyway, the point is that this argument essentially says: why do anything at all about anything so long as other worse problems exist? even keeping it domestic, we have crumbling roads/bridges (that people of all genders/orientations/religions use), we have pathetically lagging school systems, etc. i think those and a myriad of other problems are also more important that a random pizzeria in a small town and yet this has dominated the news for a few weeks now
    Given that Christianity is a religion that commands help for the poor, sick, and downtrodden I was just pointing out something of a contradiction.

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    Re: Indiana pizzeria that said it wouldn't cater gay weddings raises over 475K

    Quote Originally Posted by PoS View Post
    Hi everyone, I would just like to announce that Ive signed a deal to open several branches of my new business venture in Indiana- the PoS Pizzeria Co. I currently plan to open up 4 branches shortly:

    Branch 1: will not cater to gay weddings but will tolerate everybody else.

    Branch 2: will not cater to Christian weddings but will tolerate everybody else.

    Branch 3: will not cater to Muslim weddings but will tolerate everybody else.

    Branch 4: will not cater to Atheist weddings but will tolerate everybody else.

    Please post negative reviews of my pizzerias at Yelp so I can get on TV and start a separate GoFundMe campaign for each one please. Thank you.
    If I may offer a bit of advice. Make sure they are not in close proximity and do not identify which is which. Surprise is so much better and it allows flexibility on your part.
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    Re: Indiana pizzeria that said it wouldn't cater gay weddings raises over 475K

    Quote Originally Posted by CriticalThought View Post
    Given that Christianity is a religion that commands help for the poor, sick, and downtrodden I was just pointing out something of a contradiction.
    fair enough

    is Tim Cook not also a contradiction? in claiming that the indiana law is harmful to gays in indiana, but continuing operations in countries where homosexuality is outright illegal?

    if you care about the rights of gays, shouldnt that apply globally? my more cynical take is that there simply isnt a big downside to criticizing this law in indiana in dollar terms, but giving up cheap slave labor in china would be economically crippling to the company. so its an easy pr score. but a glaring contradiction in my opinion

    finally, it would be nice if everyone practiced what they preached, especially when it comes to religious views. that is rarely the case though

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    Re: Indiana pizzeria that said it wouldn't cater gay weddings raises over 475K

    I am no longer sure if I oppose that law as I did initially. I just watched the interview of Crystal O'Connor on Fox and she so well and intelligently articulated the difference between feeding gays in one instance and not in another.
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    Re: Indiana pizzeria that said it wouldn't cater gay weddings raises over 475K

    Quote Originally Posted by Bethlehem Bill View Post
    fair enough

    is Tim Cook not also a contradiction? in claiming that the indiana law is harmful to gays in indiana, but continuing operations in countries where homosexuality is outright illegal?

    if you care about the rights of gays, shouldnt that apply globally? my more cynical take is that there simply isnt a big downside to criticizing this law in indiana in dollar terms, but giving up cheap slave labor in china would be economically crippling to the company. so its an easy pr score. but a glaring contradiction in my opinion

    finally, it would be nice if everyone practiced what they preached, especially when it comes to religious views. that is rarely the case though
    Did Tim Cook discontinue business in Indiana?

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    Re: Indiana pizzeria that said it wouldn't cater gay weddings raises over 475K

    Quote Originally Posted by prometeus View Post
    I am no longer sure if I oppose that law as I did initially. I just watched the interview of Crystal O'Connor on Fox and she so well and intelligently articulated the difference between feeding gays in one instance and not in another.
    I see nothing wrong with her position. I do not think the Indiana law as written now or as written before was truly relevant to this situation. Nobody has sued her or attempted to use the state to punish her business. From reading the original story it seems her family were the victims of a liberal journalist trying to strum up controversy.

    RFRA: Michiana business wouldn't cater a gay wedding - ABC57 News - See the Difference Michiana

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    Re: Indiana pizzeria that said it wouldn't cater gay weddings raises over 475K

    Quote Originally Posted by CriticalThought View Post
    Did Tim Cook discontinue business in Indiana?
    no, i was thinking of the contradiction in his words/tweets/statements about the law. it just seems like, as the executive of the most powerful company in the world, he is squandering the use of his pulpit in directing his ire at the state of indiana, when he might be one of the few people on earth in a position to affect powerful change in other countries where the civil rights situations are far worse. to use a religious analogy, it is a bit like pointing out the splinter in indiana's eye, while ignoring the plank in china's.

    i hope that businesses don't boycott the entire state, as many have called for. i think it'd be unfair to the large portion of residents who don't support the legislation.

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    Re: Indiana pizzeria that said it wouldn't cater gay weddings raises over 475K

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    Fundraiser for Indiana pizzeria that said it wouldn't cater gay weddings raises over $475k - Chicago Tribune



    Is it cynical of me to wonder if the goal from the very beginning was money?
    Not cynical, naive.

    Let's see if I have this right.

    1 Local news decides to go with an activist reporting style to misrepresent what a passed law says to froth up controversy.

    2 Young liberal reporter seeks out local dining establishment in small town Indiana to ask a ridiculous question to, and finds this pizza joint with an Easter display on the piano in their dining room, even better.

    3 The question is answered to the delight of our young local reporter in just the way she wanted so as to paint Christians as intolerant, and the resturant is inundated with prank calls, death threats, phony bad reviews, and at least one high school teacher threatening to burn the place down.

    And you're upset that he, or someone else started a "go fund me" page that has raised money to replace the livelyhood that intolerant liberal pukes took away?

    I hope he raises millions.
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    Re: Indiana pizzeria that said it wouldn't cater gay weddings raises over 475K

    Quote Originally Posted by j-mac View Post
    Not cynical, naive.

    Let's see if I have this right.

    1 Local news decides to go with an activist reporting style to misrepresent what a passed law says to froth up controversy.

    2 Young liberal reporter seeks out local dining establishment in small town Indiana to ask a ridiculous question to, and finds this pizza joint with an Easter display on the piano in their dining room, even better.

    3 The question is answered to the delight of our young local reporter in just the way she wanted so as to paint Christians as intolerant, and the resturant is inundated with prank calls, death threats, phony bad reviews, and at least one high school teacher threatening to burn the place down.

    And you're upset that he, or someone else started a "go fund me" page that has raised money to replace the livelyhood that intolerant liberal pukes took away?

    I hope he raises millions.
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    Re: Indiana pizzeria that said it wouldn't cater gay weddings raises over 475K

    Quote Originally Posted by Montecresto View Post
    How do you know the reporters politics?
    Oh please, don't insult my intelligence
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