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    Re: Indiana pizzeria that said it wouldn't cater gay weddings raises over 475K

    Quote Originally Posted by roguenuke View Post
    No they actually wouldn't. The business could have seen an opportunity to do something bold for their business in seeing the reporter. With the recent trend we have seen with people making donations to people they see as victims, of either side, they could have figured on it getting them donations in some way, just nor necessarily knowing exactly how. Maybe they did think it would initially be like a CFA thing, or like the bakers or other businesses like them. Then they saw the opportunity expand with the Yelp! thing and other social media outrage. A couple of angry, irrational (empty) threats lister and they have a full blown sympathy grabbing, money making opportunity. Heck, they could have simply made the comment innocently figuring such a thing wasn't likely to happen to them anyway, and then saw the opportunity for profitable sympathy after the reaction.
    That's quite the premise, but I don't think they're that clever.
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    Re: Indiana pizzeria that said it wouldn't cater gay weddings raises over 475K

    Quote Originally Posted by roguenuke View Post
    I didn't say they did. They could have seen an opportunity to help themselves financially when the reporter came looking for comments. This sort of thing doesn't take planning, just opportunity.
    Again, you are ignoring the known sequence of events.
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    Re: Indiana pizzeria that said it wouldn't cater gay weddings raises over 475K

    Quote Originally Posted by roguenuke View Post
    I didn't say they did. They could have seen an opportunity to help themselves financially when the reporter came looking for comments. This sort of thing doesn't take planning, just opportunity.
    This is what I've been saying.

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    Re: Indiana pizzeria that said it wouldn't cater gay weddings raises over 475K

    Quote Originally Posted by Excon View Post
    Again, you are ignoring the known sequence of events.
    No I'm not. What part of the events do you think they couldn't purposely be using to their financial advantage?
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    Re: Indiana pizzeria that said it wouldn't cater gay weddings raises over 475K

    Quote Originally Posted by radcen View Post
    That's quite the premise, but I don't think they're that clever.
    Don't get me wrong, I think the far more likely scenario is that they were ignorant in saying what they did. However, I also think it is possible that they did see the opportunity of financial gain in closing shop, either from sympathetic people, lawsuits against those threatening them, or both.
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    Re: Indiana pizzeria that said it wouldn't cater gay weddings raises over 475K

    Quote Originally Posted by roguenuke View Post
    No I'm not. What part of the events do you think they couldn't purposely be using to their financial advantage?
    Yes you are.
    It is like you do not even know what we are talking about.

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    Is it cynical of me to wonder if the goal from the very beginning was money?
    Yes.

    If it was, the reporter would have to be in on it as well as the person who started the gofundme campaign.
    No they actually wouldn't. The business could have seen an opportunity to do something bold for their business in seeing the reporter. With the recent trend we have seen with people making donations to people they see as victims, of either side, they could have figured on it getting them donations in some way, just nor necessarily knowing exactly how. Maybe they did think it would initially be like a CFA thing, or like the bakers or other businesses like them. Then they saw the opportunity expand with the Yelp! thing and other social media outrage. A couple of angry, irrational (empty) threats lister and they have a full blown sympathy grabbing, money making opportunity. Heck, they could have simply made the comment innocently figuring such a thing wasn't likely to happen to them anyway, and then saw the opportunity for profitable sympathy after the reaction.

    It couldn't be their goal as it is not within the realm of the sequence of events.
    They are not responsible for what occurred. The reporter is.
    Nor are they responsible for what Dana's show did in starting a gofundme account.

    They didn't ask for any of it.
    Had they, then one may be able to speculate it was about money for them.
    As it is, such speculation is absurd.






    And pay attention to this video. It was a prior interview that the reporter dug up.
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    Re: Indiana pizzeria that said it wouldn't cater gay weddings raises over 475K

    Quote Originally Posted by CriticalThought View Post
    That comes to almost $1.5 million! I think we are on to something here!

    Now while people jumped to donate money to a pizza business that really only managed to piss off fanatics and zealots in the gay rights movement let us consider what they did not donate that money towards...

    Children starving in Africa.
    Cancer research.
    Displaced refuges from war torn countries.

    Glad we have our priorities straight.
    i get what you're saying in terms of prioritizing but this is a weak argument.

    by the same logic, why are any of the gay rights activists wasting their time and money fighting against a law in indiana? in iraq/syria they are still literally executing people for being homosexual and stoning to death women accused of adultery. these are not examples from 800 years in the past as some have tried use to make false equivalencies or excuses (e.g. well christians are bad too cuz the crusades)

    anyway, the point is that this argument essentially says: why do anything at all about anything so long as other worse problems exist? even keeping it domestic, we have crumbling roads/bridges (that people of all genders/orientations/religions use), we have pathetically lagging school systems, etc. i think those and a myriad of other problems are also more important that a random pizzeria in a small town and yet this has dominated the news for a few weeks now

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    Re: Indiana pizzeria that said it wouldn't cater gay weddings raises over 475K

    Quote Originally Posted by CriticalThought View Post
    [url=http://www.chicagotribune.com/news/local/breaking/chi-indiana-pizzeria-gay-weddings-20150402-story.html]Fundraiser for Indiana pizzeria that said it wouldn't cater gay weddings raises over $475k - Chicago Tribune[/
    Is it cynical of me to wonder if the goal from the very beginning was money?
    Probably enough to buy a pizza franchise.
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    Re: Indiana pizzeria that said it wouldn't cater gay weddings raises over 475K

    Quote Originally Posted by cpwill View Post
    It is cynical. It is also not very plausible. The media, desperate for a local turn to a state story, went out searching until they found a restaurant owner (any restaurant owner) willing to say they would not serve a gay wedding, tried to turn them into a sacrificial victim, and instead it backfired.


    How do you plan a scam that requires the random actions of a media outlet? Mind control?
    This seems to be made of the same stuff as the Idaho chapel story. It seems quite manufactured by the conservative media.

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