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    Re: Judge orders California to pay for inmate's sex change

    Quote Originally Posted by EMNofSeattle View Post
    It's not like your state is a trillion dollars in the hole, what's 100k at that point?

    Why can't we consider denying the surgery as part of "her" sentence? You kill people after beig a domestic abuser you don't get nice things, this will lose on appeal anyway, the court of appeals will not uphold the ruling
    WTF?? Calif hasn't had an execution in more years than I can even count. The court of appeals has already made it's ruling. What the **** is your problem??

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    Re: Judge orders California to pay for inmate's sex change

    Quote Originally Posted by ggwilder View Post
    Judge orders California to pay for inmate's sex change So he's getting a free surgery, that, had he not been in prison, he'd have to pay for himself? I don't see how this makes any sense.
    NO, you can't read at all can you? Or perhaps better said, in your haste to be hateful and accusatory you failed to read your own quote... If he wasn't in prison, Medi-Cal would have covered the surgery, not "himself" at all. Just one CA agency or another.
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    Taxpayers shouldn't have to pay for his surgery, let him get it on his own when he serves his time. We have enough costs with the prison system as it is.
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    Re: Judge orders California to pay for inmate's sex change

    They could just execute this person since a murder conviction is in effect. Or for those who disagree, they can start a kickstarter campaign and raise the funds.

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    Re: Judge orders California to pay for inmate's sex change

    Quote Originally Posted by digsbe View Post
    Taxpayers shouldn't have to pay for his surgery, let him get it on his own when he serves his time. We have enough costs with the prison system as it is.
    Taxpayers would pay either way as Medi-Cal has been covering the cost for low income folks for quite a while, so taxpayer wise there is no actual difference,... well, as Diana pointed out above, it may actually cost less through the prison system than through doctors connected with private insurance or Medi-Cal
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    Re: Judge orders California to pay for inmate's sex change

    For what it's worth, the Supreme Court in Canada has ruled that inmates in federal or provincial prisons have a right to receive all essential healthcare services necessary. The key terms here are "essential" and "necessary".

    From what little I know of the subject, it could be argued that the surgery is essential and necessary for the full and healthy life of such individuals. It could also be argued that a man who has lived 51 years of his life as a male does not require this surgery to live even if the surgery would improve his/her life going forward.

    There are many law abiding citizens living with any number of diseases, disfigurations, and other complications to a full and enjoyable life who are unable to afford surgeries and treatments that would make their lives better. Seems odd, in a way, that someone who breaks the rules of society, murders someone, would receive better treatment than an upstanding, contributing citizen. But then, inmates often receive better healthcare in general than many in the general public.
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    Re: Judge orders California to pay for inmate's sex change

    Quote Originally Posted by CanadaJohn View Post
    For what it's worth, the Supreme Court in Canada has ruled that inmates in federal or provincial prisons have a right to receive all essential healthcare services necessary. The key terms here are "essential" and "necessary".

    From what little I know of the subject, it could be argued that the surgery is essential and necessary for the full and healthy life of such individuals. It could also be argued that a man who has lived 51 years of his life as a male does not require this surgery to live even if the surgery would improve his/her life going forward.

    There are many law abiding citizens living with any number of diseases, disfigurations, and other complications to a full and enjoyable life who are unable to afford surgeries and treatments that would make their lives better. Seems odd, in a way, that someone who breaks the rules of society, murders someone, would receive better treatment than an upstanding, contributing citizen. But then, inmates often receive better healthcare in general than many in the general public.
    One more time... the inmate in question will NOT be receiving better healthcare than the general public, at least not the general public in California because even if he wasn't in prison, Medi-Cal has been paying for gender reassignment surgery for low/no income folks for a while.
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    Re: Judge orders California to pay for inmate's sex change

    Quote Originally Posted by Summerwind View Post
    Taxpayers would pay either way as Medi-Cal has been covering the cost for low income folks for quite a while, so taxpayer wise there is no actual difference,... well, as Diana pointed out above, it may actually cost less through the prison system than through doctors connected with private insurance or Medi-Cal
    I'm afraid the concept of a prison doc performing that kinda surgery is, frankly scary.
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    Re: Judge orders California to pay for inmate's sex change

    Quote Originally Posted by MrVicchio View Post
    I'm afraid the concept of a prison doc performing that kinda surgery is, frankly scary.
    That is a whole different issue, and I seriously doubt the "prison doc" would do it.
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    Re: Judge orders California to pay for inmate's sex change

    Quote Originally Posted by Summerwind View Post
    That is a whole different issue, and I seriously doubt the "prison doc" would do it.
    Hehe, just checking. "Hey doc, you know how to do this right?" - patient asks as they put her under.... last thing she sees is the doc holding up a book "Snip and tuck, the dummy's guide to GRS."

    Oh man, that would be a funny prank!
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