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    Re: Judge orders California to pay for inmate's sex change

    Quote Originally Posted by DiAnna View Post
    That 100K figure is nuts. Someone just pulled it out of their ass to whip the plebes into a frenzy. Prison surgical procedures are procured on the cheap by the state, by doctors willing to accept fairly basic pay, and that particular surgery is fairly routine, believe it or not. I'd be surprised if the state paid more than about 15K, if that.
    100k is probably on the high side.. but i think 15k is way low.

    who the hell really knows ?... none of us has any clue what anything related to healthcare actually costs.

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    Re: Judge orders California to pay for inmate's sex change

    Quote Originally Posted by DiAnna View Post
    It's kind of a rights issue. The courts don't allow cruel/unusual punishment regardless of the crime, and I believe (I could be wrong) that the court ruled that keeping a full-breasted woman in a male prison should not be allowed.

    I'm not going to picket for her or anything, just explaining why I don't think having the surgery done in prison in order to transfer her to a women's prison is a bad idea.
    Oh, the male prison, yeah that I agree with. the 15k for the GRS? No, sorry. I just... have this belief if you commit horrible crimes then you get to suffer. Helps deter others from making your mistakes. Just my view of course.
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    Re: Judge orders California to pay for inmate's sex change

    Quote Originally Posted by Thrilla View Post
    100k is probably on the high side.. but i think 15k is way low.

    who the hell really knows ?... none of us has any clue what anything related to healthcare actually costs.
    GRS is generally 10-15k, unless you go to Thailand.
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    Re: Judge orders California to pay for inmate's sex change

    Quote Originally Posted by Thrilla View Post
    100k is probably on the high side.. but i think 15k is way low.

    who the hell really knows ?... none of us has any clue what anything related to healthcare actually costs.
    lol, at least not that particular healthcare! Seriously, I do know that the state pays only basic medicare/medicaid rates for inmate health care, and as I told MrV, the cost of keeping her in solitary for safety reasons is probably also a hefty chunk of change that the state would like to stop paying.

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    Re: Judge orders California to pay for inmate's sex change

    Quote Originally Posted by DiAnna View Post
    lol, at least not that particular healthcare! Seriously, I do know that the state pays only basic medicare/medicaid rates for inmate health care, and as I told MrV, the cost of keeping her in solitary for safety reasons is probably also a hefty chunk of change that the state would like to stop paying.
    well, if its only 10 or 15 grand.. that's cool by me...
    they can make up that money by taking some perks away from wardens, school administrators ,or corrupt politicians.

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    Re: Judge orders California to pay for inmate's sex change

    Quote Originally Posted by Thrilla View Post
    well, if its only 10 or 15 grand.. that's cool by me...
    they can make up that money by taking some perks away from wardens, school administrators ,or corrupt politicians.
    There you go! I absolutely agree.

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    Re: Judge orders California to pay for inmate's sex change

    Quote Originally Posted by DiAnna View Post
    It makes sense if he's been living as a woman for almost 30 years, has been taking hormones to develop breasts and female contours, and is being housed in an all-male prison. You can imagine the problems. As a physical female, she can be transferred to a woman's prison, where she will supposedly fit in more comfortably. I'm a Californian and I don't have a problem with this tax-supported surgery. Transgenders have enough problems just being who they are. They deserve a bit of empathy and whatever comfort the surgery can provide.
    It's not like your state is a trillion dollars in the hole, what's 100k at that point?

    Why can't we consider denying the surgery as part of "her" sentence? You kill people after beig a domestic abuser you don't get nice things, this will lose on appeal anyway, the court of appeals will not uphold the ruling
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    Re: Judge orders California to pay for inmate's sex change

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    Judge orders California to pay for inmate's sex change

    So he's getting a free surgery, that, had he not been in prison, he'd have to pay for himself?

    I don't see how this makes any sense.
    Will that call for an exchange to a females' prison?

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    Re: Judge orders California to pay for inmate's sex change

    Quote Originally Posted by Thrilla View Post
    well, if its only 10 or 15 grand.. that's cool by me...
    they can make up that money by taking some perks away from wardens, school administrators ,or corrupt politicians.
    You wouldn't want her pimped, I take it, to claw the money back?

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    Re: Judge orders California to pay for inmate's sex change

    Quote Originally Posted by EMNofSeattle View Post
    It's not like your state is a trillion dollars in the hole, what's 100k at that point?

    Why can't we consider denying the surgery as part of "her" sentence? You kill people after beig a domestic abuser you don't get nice things, this will lose on appeal anyway, the court of appeals will not uphold the ruling
    WTF? What the hell does this do with Oregon law anyway? "You" can't consider anything as a part of "her" sentence. You are not Calif law. Back off.

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