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    Re: Iranians See Victory, Hope for New Image in Nuclear Agreement

    Quote Originally Posted by rocket88 View Post
    So you're already admitting defeat for your President. At least you're not making pre-cuses.
    My President? I'm not part of the GOP and I'm not voting Republican this election.

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    Re: Iranians See Victory, Hope for New Image in Nuclear Agreement

    Quote Originally Posted by Μολὼν λαβέ View Post
    Continue the sanctions. Make Iran ask to come to the table rather than Obama releasing billions to them just for the opportunity to talk to them.

    Why do liberals have such a difficult time understanding this?
    The US is not the only "Game in Town", there are plenty of countries willing to do business with Iran. Russia & Iran are already concluding arms deals with more proposed in the future.

    Briefly put more hypocritical & draconian measures by the US will only drive Iran to do business elsewhere.


    Iran's complaint, all along has been made clear in their UN speeches. Sadly, few Americans have read complete & accurate translations of their very rational content.

    Their complaint is & has been about the egregious double standard by which Israel is rewarded with US $ Billions while maintaining a Rogue, nuclear arsenal ranking 3rd -4th in the world, Israel's illegal & unfettered Expansionist agenda, illegal Occupation & atrocities committed against a civilian population. Few Americans read of their resentment over these multiple double-standards or know of the US / West's Colonial/Historic abuses of Iran.

    In light of repeated threats from the US & Israel, the Iranians regard the microscopic scrutiny of their fledgling nuclear program as not only unfair but insulting. Please read those complete & accurate translations yourself for confirmation of these sentiments.

    Iran has gone along this far because of a fondness for America & the American people...NOT America's hypocritical Mid East policy which is the object of their "Death to America" enmity.

    All rational people have difficulty understanding why the Iranians should accept continued sanctions, a hypocritical nuclear enforcement policy and being "made" to come to the table. Attempting to enforce unjust Policy and "making" nations humiliate themselves has, historically backfired (i.e. the Treaty of Versailles etc
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    Re: Iranians See Victory, Hope for New Image in Nuclear Agreement

    Quote Originally Posted by rocket88 View Post
    The Saudis wanted it before, don't kid yourself. If for no other reason than Israel has the bomb.
    With the rise of Iran in the reason, it has turned from want to action
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    Re: Iranians See Victory, Hope for New Image in Nuclear Agreement

    Quote Originally Posted by rocket88 View Post
    Such as? Yes, lets have more effective measures. What would those be?
    You have to ask? Bomb the **** out of them, of course.

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    Re: Iranians See Victory, Hope for New Image in Nuclear Agreement

    Quote Originally Posted by B'smith View Post
    The US is not the only "Game in Town", there are plenty of countries willing to do business with Iran. Russia & Iran are already concluding arms deals with more proposed in the future.
    Quote Originally Posted by B'smith View Post

    Briefly put more hypocritical & draconian measures by the US will only drive Iran to do business elsewhere.
    We have offered them a path to rejoin the international community but they would rather die so that the 12th imam can rise up and take over the Earth.


    Iran's complaint, all along has been made clear in their UN speeches. Sadly, few Americans have read complete & accurate translations of their very rational content.
    There is nothing rational about Iran's ratings.


    Their complaint is & has been about the egregious double standard by which Israel is rewarded with US $ Billions while maintaining a Rogue,
    nuclear arsenal ranking 3rd -4th in the world, Israel's illegal & unfettered Expansionist agenda, illegal Occupation & atrocities committed against a civilian population. Few Americans read of their resentment over these multiple double-standards or know of the US /West's Colonial/Historic abuses of Iran.
    Israel has never threatened its neighbors and only developed nuclear weapons long after they had been attacked over and over by the Arabs that want them all dead.


    In light of repeated threats from the US & Israel, the Iranians regard the microscopic scrutiny of their fledgling nuclear program as not only unfair but insulting. Please read those complete & accurate translations yourself for confirmation of these sentiments.
    Why should the US or Israel leave Iran to create nuclear weapons when Iran's leaders call for death to America and promise to incinerate Israel as soon as they get a nuclear weapon??


    Iran has gone along this far because of a fondness for America & the American people...NOT America's hypocritical Mid East policy which is the object of their "Death to America" enmity.
    So the leader of Iran chanting "Death to America" a couple of days ago was an expression of love for our people??


    All rational people have difficulty understanding why the Iranians should accept continued sanctions, a hypocritical nuclear enforcement policy and being "made" to come to the table. Attempting to enforce unjust Policy and "making" nations humiliate themselves has, historically backfired (i.e. the Treaty of Versailles etc
    Not one rational person on the plant has difficulty understanding why the Iranians should not be allowed to have nuclear weapons when Iran is the greatest threat to world stability right now.
    Iran has its terrorist proxies fighting all over the Middle East witht eh stated goal to destroy Israel and America.


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    Re: Iranians See Victory, Hope for New Image in Nuclear Agreement

    Quote Originally Posted by rocket88 View Post
    They did. You want them to surrender, not come to the table to bargain.

    Which is fine, but at least say it.
    I don't know what I wrote that is so difficult for you to understand.
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    Re: Iranians See Victory, Hope for New Image in Nuclear Agreement

    Quote Originally Posted by rocket88 View Post
    So you're already admitting defeat for your President. At least you're not making pre-cuses.
    Obama is letting the cat out of the bag, not a Republican president. I don't know what's so difficult to understand about that either.
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    Re: Iranians See Victory, Hope for New Image in Nuclear Agreement

    Quote Originally Posted by B'smith View Post
    The US is not the only "Game in Town", there are plenty of countries willing to do business with Iran. Russia & Iran are already concluding arms deals with more proposed in the future.

    Briefly put more hypocritical & draconian measures by the US will only drive Iran to do business elsewhere.


    Iran's complaint, all along has been made clear in their UN speeches. Sadly, few Americans have read complete & accurate translations of their very rational content.

    Their complaint is & has been about the egregious double standard by which Israel is rewarded with US $ Billions while maintaining a Rogue, nuclear arsenal ranking 3rd -4th in the world, Israel's illegal & unfettered Expansionist agenda, illegal Occupation & atrocities committed against a civilian population. Few Americans read of their resentment over these multiple double-standards or know of the US / West's Colonial/Historic abuses of Iran.

    In light of repeated threats from the US & Israel, the Iranians regard the microscopic scrutiny of their fledgling nuclear program as not only unfair but insulting. Please read those complete & accurate translations yourself for confirmation of these sentiments.

    Iran has gone along this far because of a fondness for America & the American people...NOT America's hypocritical Mid East policy which is the object of their "Death to America" enmity.

    All rational people have difficulty understanding why the Iranians should accept continued sanctions, a hypocritical nuclear enforcement policy and being "made" to come to the table. Attempting to enforce unjust Policy and "making" nations humiliate themselves has, historically backfired (i.e. the Treaty of Versailles etc
    So Iran is jealous of the US relationship with Israel? I don't think so. There is no double standard, except what one hears from supporters of Iran's oppressive regime.

    Israel and the US are allies. Iran and the US are not. Israel hasn't been showing their citizens, as well as religious leaders, chanting death to America on state sponsored TV.

    I have no problems with negotiating, except the Obama administration has been giving away the farm ($$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$) and getting nothing in return, except accusations of lies and "death to America" chants.

    Anyone who thinks Iran will adhere to any nuclear agreement is delusional.
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    Re: Iranians See Victory, Hope for New Image in Nuclear Agreement

    Quote Originally Posted by rocket88 View Post
    So what is the RW strategy? Assuming President Romney, what would he be doing about Iran? Wagging his finger menacingly?

    You didn't want a deal, and there you go. No deal. Which doesn't make Iran further away from a nuclear weapon.
    MORE sanctions, less lies.

    Wow, that was easy

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    Re: Iranians See Victory, Hope for New Image in Nuclear Agreement

    Quote Originally Posted by cpgrad08 View Post
    10 years Iran will have a Nuclear weapon
    Well, Netanyahu has been saying they are months away from having one since the early nineties.

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