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    Re: Iranians See Victory, Hope for New Image in Nuclear Agreement

    Quote Originally Posted by MildSteel View Post
    I am very happy to hear that the people of Iran are enthusiastic about the nuclear agreement that has been reached. I really, really hope this works out well for them. It is a much needed chance for them and I hope they take advantage of this historic opportunity!



    Iranians See Victory, Hope for New Image in Nuclear Agreement - WSJ

    Hat's off to Obama for taking this brave step. May his efforts in this regards be successful!
    Hopefully they will get nuclear weapons and it will start an arms race in the middle east and eventually Sunni and Shia will blow themselves to bits, ending decades of strife in the middle east. The survivors will blow their horns and raise their hands in victory.
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    Re: Iranians See Victory, Hope for New Image in Nuclear Agreement

    Quote Originally Posted by Simpleχity View Post
    That's no lasting solution. You can't simply bomb away nuclear knowledge.
    In 2001 GW Bush sent a note to Libya's Gadaffi saying that Gadaffi could either get rid of his nuclear program or the US would immediately destroy it without further discussion. Gadaffi immediately announced that he was getting rid of the program, and he did so.

    That's how you deal with savages.

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    Re: Iranians See Victory, Hope for New Image in Nuclear Agreement

    Quote Originally Posted by Simpleχity View Post
    The Iranians gave up far more in the framework agreement than I ever envisioned. If some things are tweaked a bit and some other things defined a bit better, then this *could be* a very robust deal. But firstly, it must all be precisely spelled out in a universal document and signed by the Iranians. Secondly, no agreement will work unless the IAEA has access to all Iranian documents/data/facilities/materials. This includes all PMDs (Possible Military Dimensions).
    Including unhindered snap inspections.

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    Re: Iranians See Victory, Hope for New Image in Nuclear Agreement

    Quote Originally Posted by Montecresto View Post
    America is the worlds largest arms dealer and as such is responsible for the deaths of vastly more humans than Iran.
    We are not the ones selling AK 47s to terrorists. sport.

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    Re: Iranians See Victory, Hope for New Image in Nuclear Agreement

    Quote Originally Posted by sawdust View Post
    Hopefully they will get nuclear weapons and it will start an arms race in the middle east and eventually Sunni and Shia will blow themselves to bits, ending decades of strife in the middle east. The survivors will blow their horns and raise their hands in victory.
    Yes, hopefully there's a nuclear war in the Middle East.
    Killing one person is murder, killing 100,000 is foreign policy

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    Re: Iranians See Victory, Hope for New Image in Nuclear Agreement

    Quote Originally Posted by ObamacareFail View Post
    We are not the ones selling AK 47s to terrorists. sport.
    True, we don't sell AK-47's.
    Killing one person is murder, killing 100,000 is foreign policy

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    Re: Iranians See Victory, Hope for New Image in Nuclear Agreement

    Quote Originally Posted by Montecresto View Post
    Yes, hopefully there's a nuclear war in the Middle East.
    This is one possible consequence of what many consider to be a bad deal, which has no hope of passage in June, and ends with a delayed development of nuclear weapons in Iran, a country whose leadership is unstable and desires to be the major political and military power in the region. The Saudi's want the bomb now, as a result of our foolish foreign policy of leading from behind, which is really following and begging.
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    Re: Iranians See Victory, Hope for New Image in Nuclear Agreement

    Quote Originally Posted by MildSteel View Post
    I am very happy to hear that the people of Iran are enthusiastic about the nuclear agreement that has been reached. I really, really hope this works out well for them. It is a much needed chance for them and I hope they take advantage of this historic opportunity!



    Iranians See Victory, Hope for New Image in Nuclear Agreement - WSJ

    Hat's off to Obama for taking this brave step. May his efforts in this regards be successful!


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    Re: Iranians See Victory, Hope for New Image in Nuclear Agreement

    Quote Originally Posted by sawdust View Post
    This is one possible consequence of what many consider to be a bad deal, which has no hope of passage in June, and ends with a delayed development of nuclear weapons in Iran, a country whose leadership is unstable and desires to be the major political and military power in the region. The Saudi's want the bomb now, as a result of our foolish foreign policy of leading from behind, which is really following and begging.
    Do you know what kind of morons it takes to call a deal that hasn't even been produced a bad deal, or a good deal for that matter?
    Killing one person is murder, killing 100,000 is foreign policy

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    Re: Iranians See Victory, Hope for New Image in Nuclear Agreement

    Quote Originally Posted by Montecresto View Post
    Do you know what kind of morons it takes to call a deal that hasn't even been produced a bad deal, or a good deal for that matter?
    Read the framework and decide for yourself if it allows Iran to process fissile material and eventually develop a nuclear weapon. A dirty bomb does't even require weapons grade uranium. Even the Europeans who were our negotiation partners claim that we rolled over for Iran, just to have a framework. Good foreign policy requires an understanding of the appropriate use of power. What we did was give up our power and resort to begging. What kind of moron likes a bad deal?
    "A democracy cannot exist as a permanent form of government. It can only exist until the majority discovers it can vote itself largess out of the public treasury." Attributed to Alexander Tytler

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