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    Re: What's in the Iran nuclear deal? 7 key points

    Quote Originally Posted by washunut View Post
    Unless Hillary changes parties, there won't be a republican president for at least 10 years. Iran will have nuclear weapons by then. Lets face it, the majority of the world is on your side. They could care less if Iran has the bomb. And if you or they are honest, could care less if they or an ally of theirs uses it against Israel.

    No worries mate, we understand your desires on this issue.
    Perhaps it's escaped you, but I have been a continual advocate of global nuclear eradication (peaceful included). Its in my interest that the P5+1 succeeds in denying Iran nuclear weapons, with any luck, all republican and Israeli attempts to derail those efforts, fail!
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    Re: What's in the Iran nuclear deal? 7 key points

    Quote Originally Posted by Montecresto View Post
    Perhaps it's escaped you, but I have been a continual advocate of global nuclear eradication (peaceful included). Its in my interest that the P5+1 succeeds in denying Iran nuclear weapons, with any luck, all republican and Israeli attempts to derail those efforts, fail!
    People can post whatever. While I think you are deliberately naive regarding Iran I doubt you are that stupid.

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    Re: What's in the Iran nuclear deal? 7 key points

    Quote Originally Posted by washunut View Post
    People can post whatever. While I think you are deliberately naive regarding Iran I doubt you are that stupid.
    What do you mean, people can post whatever. Are you suggesting I'm not an advocate of global nuclear eradication? I suppose you think all those people in China, Russia, Germany, France and the UK and US that are working on preventing a nuclear powered Iran are naive, too?
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    Re: What's in the Iran nuclear deal? 7 key points

    Quote Originally Posted by Montecresto View Post
    What do you mean, people can post whatever. Are you suggesting I'm not an advocate of global nuclear eradication? I suppose you think all those people in China, Russia, Germany, France and the UK and US that are working on preventing a nuclear powered Iran are naive, too?
    Do you really think the motive of Russia, China and the EU was to make sure Iran got no nukes. I would bet their number one goal was to increase trade (and when the talks started to get Iranian oil at a discount).

    As to eradicating nuclear weapons, that is for dreamers. They are held by too many. Eventually as the number of nations increases (as this deal will insure) who hold them there will be a horrible incident.

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    Re: What's in the Iran nuclear deal? 7 key points

    Quote Originally Posted by washunut View Post
    Do you really think the motive of Russia, China and the EU was to make sure Iran got no nukes. I would bet their number one goal was to increase trade (and when the talks started to get Iranian oil at a discount).

    As to eradicating nuclear weapons, that is for dreamers. They are held by too many. Eventually as the number of nations increases (as this deal will insure) who hold them there will be a horrible incident.
    First, you don't know that of this deal, sense no deal has been agreed to. Secondly, there are dozens of countries actively working for global nuclear eradication. And yes, a big part of the negotiations involve participating nations trade interests. But they've all made clear that a nuclear weapons powered Iran is in nobodies interests. So what's your schtick, the Bolton, McCain, Netanyahu plan?
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    Re: What's in the Iran nuclear deal? 7 key points

    Quote Originally Posted by WCH View Post
    Notice, because NK is nuclear armed, no one talks about messing with them beyond some toothless sanctions.

    Do we want the same condition with Iran? Or do we already know they have the bomb?
    Remember Clinton Admin signs a no-nukes-for-North-Korea deal the next thing you know the NKs are detonating a bomb. Rational people see a pattern here.
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    Re: What's in the Iran nuclear deal? 7 key points

    Quote Originally Posted by PoS View Post
    This is just silly. Iran is all talk, Isreal doesnt make threats but instead just attacks with impunity and can annihilate Iran anytime it wants to. North Korea makes threats all the time and they have nukes but you neocons always ignore them. Why the double standard?
    The biggest difference the way I see it, is that Iran is ruled by a radical extremist religion. NKs main motive for the bomb is to preserve the dictatorship/NK communist society. Iran's motive is for complete destruction of Irsael and to triumph over that centuries old shiite/sunni/tribal war.
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    Re: What's in the Iran nuclear deal? 7 key points

    Quote Originally Posted by Chainsaw View Post
    The biggest difference the way I see it, is that Iran is ruled by a radical extremist religion. NKs main motive for the bomb is to preserve the dictatorship/NK communist society. Iran's motive is for complete destruction of Irsael and to triumph over that centuries old shiite/sunni/tribal war.
    It is far too late to totally prevent Iran from mastering nuclear technology. They already possess the requisite nuclear knowledge and the expertise.

    It is impossible to bomb-away knowledge.

    The best that can be accomplished is to - retard/delay - such knowledge and expertise from becoming a physical reality.

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    Re: What's in the Iran nuclear deal? 7 key points

    Quote Originally Posted by Montecresto View Post
    With a stockpile of nuclear weapons, and a freak at the helm willing to bomb Iran, a vastly weaker nation militarily, how is it that Israel is under the Bus?
    When has Israel ever said they were to going to wipe Iran off the map? Whereas Iran has repeatedly said they were going to wipe Israel off the map.
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    Re: What's in the Iran nuclear deal? 7 key points

    Quote Originally Posted by Montecresto View Post
    What does that mean? That you don't think Obama would use the military option if needed?
    Not unless it just used drones or some very minor air power. IMO he won't seek regime change or boots on the ground.

    I'm of the opinion Iran and it's proxies possess at least dirty bombs and other WMDs and probably have at least a crude nuke. They will use them if attacked which will lead to a much wider conflicts..quickly.
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