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    Re: What's in the Iran nuclear deal? 7 key points

    Quote Originally Posted by American View Post
    That explains nothing. And you can support this **** till you're blue in the face, the fact of the matter is there's disagreement already about what is merely said publically and that bothers me.
    Firstly, what was negotiated so far is a mutually negotiated "framework". A framework is neither final nor binding. Whatever transpires between now and 30 June will determine if a signed document becomes reality.

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    Re: What's in the Iran nuclear deal? 7 key points

    Quote Originally Posted by upsideguy View Post
    It only took 3 posts to return to that comfort zone of baseless speculation. Why discuss facts when baseless speculation is so much more interesting...
    The whole thing has been kept secret. "we need to pass this to know what's in it" -esk. We may never know exactly what or wasn't agreed to.

    Your facts are useless speculation.
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    Re: What's in the Iran nuclear deal? 7 key points

    Quote Originally Posted by Simpleχity View Post
    Firstly, what was negotiated so far is a mutually negotiated "framework". A framework is neither final nor binding. Whatever transpires between now and 30 June will determine if a signed document becomes reality.
    Sure, you believe that. It's for the consumption of the critics. Oh yeah, nothing's in concrete............that's why they haggled for a bunch of extra time over nothing important at all. Who are you trying to kid?
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    Re: What's in the Iran nuclear deal? 7 key points

    What doofus would believe Iran would have any intention of adhering to anything? Has said doofus paid attention to the past 40 years?

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    Re: What's in the Iran nuclear deal? 7 key points

    Quote Originally Posted by PoS View Post
    Iran cannot destroy Isreal so that argument is moot. NK has repeatedly stated that it wants a war of annihilation and they have brainwashed their people for that. I have met Iranians overseas who are studying for medical degrees and they are not fanatics, they are a democracy.
    Even the UN knows Iran is the worlds #1 state sponsor/financial support for terrorism around the globe. So what you are saying is that the 'democracy' (all your 'moderate' Iranian buddies) in Iran votes to support Iran's sponsorship of terrorism?

    When a nation is an ardent supporter of terrorism the way Iran is, they have to be somewhat guarded not to provoke the worlds action to stop it. AFTER Iran gets a nuke, will the world be more or less likely or effective to be able to reduce or stop Iran's sponsorship of terrorism? I agree Iran knows the use of a nuke would be an end of days action, but since the 40s, nukes have been nothing more than tools of leverage.
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    Re: What's in the Iran nuclear deal? 7 key points

    Quote Originally Posted by Kobie View Post
    Over/under on how long before someone claims you're an anti-semite for saying this?

    I tend to not agree with you, by the way.
    Right, because criticism of destabilising and heavy handed Israeli foreign policy is anti-Semitic. I think they've already said it.
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    Re: What's in the Iran nuclear deal? 7 key points

    Quote Originally Posted by Chainsaw View Post
    Even the UN knows Iran is the worlds #1 state sponsor/financial support for terrorism around the globe. So what you are saying is that the 'democracy' (all your 'moderate' Iranian buddies) in Iran votes to support Iran's sponsorship of terrorism?
    Isreal, North Korea and the US are also supporting terror groups so that line of argument is pretty silly and hypocritical.

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    Re: What's in the Iran nuclear deal? 7 key points

    Quote Originally Posted by American View Post
    Sure, you believe that. It's for the consumption of the critics. Oh yeah, nothing's in concrete............that's why they haggled for a bunch of extra time over nothing important at all. Who are you trying to kid?
    Lol. I think you misunderstand. I *strongly oppose* Iran obtaining any nuclear-weapon capability. That is why I've educated myself on the subject ... I wanted to be sure that I fairly well understood both mechanics and implications. Personally, I have grave doubts that a mutual accord will be reached primarily; 1) due to the sanctions-relief issue and 2) due to the obligatory intrusive-inspections regimen. I also highly doubt Iran will accept a comprehensive and thorough accounting of PMDs (Possible Military Dimensions).

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    Re: What's in the Iran nuclear deal? 7 key points

    Quote Originally Posted by Mycroft View Post
    LOL!!

    So...in your attempt to excuse Obama for bad negotiating you try to blame:

    1. Other countries.
    2. Republicans, if they don't ratify the crap deal Obama gives Iran.
    3. "Bubbi".
    4. Treasonous Republicans.
    5. Politics.


    I think you forgot to blame Bush this time around.
    actually, the shrub, and his (in)actions relative to the north koreans developing the bomb, were quite instructional in what NOT to do with respect to iran's nuclear program
    we are negotiating about dividing a pizza and in the meantime israel is eating it
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    Re: What's in the Iran nuclear deal? 7 key points

    Quote Originally Posted by Apocalypse View Post
    He's not an anti-Semite, not if we judge by his posts, but he's certainly an anti-Israeli buffoon.
    I appreciate the first part and in the interest of peace I have no comment about the second part.
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