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    Re: E.U. and Iran Announce Framework for Nuclear Deal

    Quote Originally Posted by Samhain View Post
    Doesn't matter, they don't have to do anything, as the expiration for sanctions is Dec 31 2016.
    We already eased some.....so they are using that money to help a few of their friends out.

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    Re: E.U. and Iran Announce Framework for Nuclear Deal

    Quote Originally Posted by JANFU View Post
    That has nothing at all to do with a deal.
    I realize that. Just pointing out the hypocrisy of where liberals direct all their energy.

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    Re: E.U. and Iran Announce Framework for Nuclear Deal

    Quote Originally Posted by JANFU View Post
    This is not a treaty.
    If the deal includes changing the sanctions, and it appears that it does, that portion would need to be an Act of Congress.

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    Re: E.U. and Iran Announce Framework for Nuclear Deal

    Quote Originally Posted by azgreg View Post
    In the words of Pat Buchanan "We could take care of Iran in an afternoon."
    When Conservatives Tangle: Pat Buchanan Spars With 'Hysterical' Sean Hannity Over Iran | CNS News
    OK, Pat, and when Russia and China jump to Iran's defense? Then what?

    This is a bad, bad deal.

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    Re: E.U. and Iran Announce Framework for Nuclear Deal

    Quote Originally Posted by bubbabgone View Post
    Your link doesn't say that.
    Yes it does

    "...extending the breakout time..."
    "Iran’s breakout timeline – the time that it would take for Iran to acquire enough fissile
    material for one weapon – is currently assessed to be 2 to 3 months. That timeline will be
    extended to at least one year, for a duration of at least ten years, under this framework. "

    --going from 2-3 months to ≥ 1 year is an extension--


    " ... agreeing to halt enrichment ..." wtf kind of nonsense is that?
    --At many of their facilities that the P5+1 was most concerned about, they have agreed to halt.--
    "Iran has agreed to not enrich uranium at its Fordow facility"
    "Iran has agreed to not conduct research and development associated with uranium enrichment at Fordow"
    " Iran will not build new enrichment facilities or heavy water reactors"


    And it does say breakout time is currently 3 months ... that would be June.
    OK... Glad you can count your months. Or are you seriously saying that Iran is now going to start moving forward with creating a nuclear bomb before June????

    This would be a good deal if it was was with Canada ... but this Iran.
    They dragged it out to get to this point.
    And that sanction section is silly.
    Yup. Its cuz OBAMA!

    Once they get a weapon, wtf do they care about sanctions.
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    Re: E.U. and Iran Announce Framework for Nuclear Deal

    Quote Originally Posted by JANFU View Post
    This is not a treaty.
    I don't think an executive agreement will accomplish what's going on here. Correct me if I'm wrong (like I have to ask ).

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    Re: E.U. and Iran Announce Framework for Nuclear Deal

    Quote Originally Posted by CRUE CAB View Post
    In his speech, Obama promised Iranian transparency. Hmmm........
    Heya Crue. Yeah BO said they promised transparency when he said. We can't simply tell Iran to dismantle their Nuke program. They wont listen anyways. That's not the way the World works.



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    Re: E.U. and Iran Announce Framework for Nuclear Deal

    When will sanctions be lifted--all at once or gradually--and tied to how Iran behaves ?

    Quote Originally Posted by JANFU View Post
    http://www.nytimes.com/2015/04/03/wo...=top-news&_r=0



    Hmm, another 3 months.
    Sanctions lifted as Iran complies?? Interesting - Complies to what?
    What will Congress think?
    You're Welcome .

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    Re: E.U. and Iran Announce Framework for Nuclear Deal

    Quote Originally Posted by TheDemSocialist View Post
    Yes it does
    The article states: Iran has agreed to not enrich uranium over 3.67 percent for at least 15 years.

    That's not the same as halting it.

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    Re: E.U. and Iran Announce Framework for Nuclear Deal

    Quote Originally Posted by Erod View Post
    I realize that. Just pointing out the hypocrisy of where liberals direct all their energy.
    OK I am fine with that as I am sometimes a Liberal ( Human Rights) sometimes a conservative ( Fiscally) and a tad of a socialist when it comes to protecting / helping the weak and disadvantaged.
    I am well aware that Congress if it smells a bad deal will impose their own sanctions. They have enough to override a veto- That would torpedo any deal.
    Iran and Obama know this as do the rest of the P5 plus 1.
    But if the others, who are closer than the US are OK with it, then we must wait. As the devil is in the details.

    Some key points that Iran changed on is they wanted sanctions lifted immediately, bad deal, now they will be suspended. .
    The other one is the UN sanctions will be revised to ensure no nuke technology/ sensitive teck is sold to Iran.
    That means the new UN sanctions must be passed prior to lifting the original sanctions.
    Quote Originally Posted by Erod View Post
    The damage to the black community from all this will be devastating.
    Not only on public perception and reputation, but cops simply won't want to police these neighborhoods anymore.
    The shooter was later found to be white.

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