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    Re: E.U. and Iran Announce Framework for Nuclear Deal

    Quote Originally Posted by iliveonramen View Post
    If the agreement isn't adhered to it's null and void. it's the same situation we are currently in....
    Exactly. Diplomacy vs war, I'll take diplomacy and stability. This is a good thing, and I am confident that Iran will be held to the conditions.
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    Re: E.U. and Iran Announce Framework for Nuclear Deal

    Quote Originally Posted by Anthony60 View Post
    Our president should be for fundamental change here, but not for fundamental change in a dictatorial regime??? Whoa!
    Correct. It's not the role of a US president to go about the world removing governments and installing puppets, much as they seem to enjoy the sport, regardless of party.
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    Re: E.U. and Iran Announce Framework for Nuclear Deal

    Quote Originally Posted by Montecresto View Post
    Correct. It's not the role of a US president to go about the world removing governments and installing puppets, much as they seem to enjoy the sport, regardless of party.
    So, what would you replace our fundamentals with? A dictatorship, to match the ones he does not support getting rid of?
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    Re: E.U. and Iran Announce Framework for Nuclear Deal

    Quote Originally Posted by joko104 View Post
    Money for their military and legitimacy of the government to their people. Billions and billions and billions of dollars for expansionism and to declare victory over the USA and Jews of Israel.

    What is being negotiated is what concessions the USA and West will make to the Islamic reborn Persian Empire as the soon overwhelming dominate power in the M.E.

    The real story is that Iran so kicked the ass of the USA in the M.E. by exporting terrorism, revolution and chaos that the USA's president acting like a timid dictator afraid of a fight surrendered to Iran over the open objection of the elected representatives of the American people (Congress).
    Heya Joko. What funny are those sitting here thinking that Iran wont be conducting war. That opening up Iran for business is going to stop them from increasing their aid to those they have fighting proxy wars. While at the same time.....still look to sponsor terrorism against the Great Satan.

    Funny how while negotiating they still managed to get off some aid to the Shia in Yemen. While calling us for assistance with Air Strikes in Iraq on ISIS in Tirkrit, huh.

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    Re: E.U. and Iran Announce Framework for Nuclear Deal

    Quote Originally Posted by MMC View Post
    What about the part about the agreement.....that is based on a theoretical benchmark that Iran is breaking out in a year and not 2-3 months? Did you note how they played with that framework understanding?
    The stories keep changing, and now Iran has come out and said we are lying about certain parts of the agreement - not a really great way to inspire confidence about this! Are they saying just we are lying, or are they also including the other countries involved in the negotiations?

    Has the Ayatollah made an announcement - apparently he has the final word on whether this agreement is good for Iran or not. I had originally thought it was Iran that wanted an agreement, and the sanctions lifted - but it's sounding more and more like it was us that wanted it, and the whole world, including the UN, was saying NO, it is a bad idea! Whose idea was it to try and get an agreement now, after years of sanctions that were placed on them because they didn't abide by earlier agreements? WTH?

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    Re: E.U. and Iran Announce Framework for Nuclear Deal

    Quote Originally Posted by Anthony60 View Post
    So, what would you replace our fundamentals with? A dictatorship, to match the ones he does not support getting rid of?
    Not a fan of dictators. We have a monopolised (by the d and r) political system, that's fundamentally flawed, perhaps we'll see an independent president one day.
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    Re: E.U. and Iran Announce Framework for Nuclear Deal

    Quote Originally Posted by polgara View Post
    The stories keep changing, and now Iran has come out and said we are lying about certain parts of the agreement - not a really great way to inspire confidence about this! Are they saying just we are lying, or are they also including the other countries involved in the negotiations?

    Has the Ayatollah made an announcement - apparently he has the final word on whether this agreement is good for Iran or not. I had originally thought it was Iran that wanted an agreement, and the sanctions lifted - but it's sounding more and more like it was us that wanted it, and the whole world, including the UN, was saying NO, it is a bad idea! Whose idea was it to try and get an agreement now, after years of sanctions that were placed on them because they didn't abide by earlier agreements? WTH?


    Cmon now Lady P.....Iran did not say we lied. They say we know how to spin.

    Well, I have asked why should we listen to this mamamamysharona, as how long will he be as the EyesAToldYa?

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    Re: E.U. and Iran Announce Framework for Nuclear Deal

    Quote Originally Posted by MMC View Post
    Cmon now Lady P.....Iran did not say we lied. They say we know how to spin.

    Well, I have asked why should we listen to this mamamamysharona, as how long will he be as the EyesAToldYa?
    I honestly thought I heard him say we have not told the truth on parts of the agreement, and he listed them. I guess I need more coffee, or a trip to the audiologist....

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    Re: E.U. and Iran Announce Framework for Nuclear Deal

    Quote Originally Posted by MMC View Post
    Cmon now Lady P.....Iran did not say we lied. They say we know how to spin.

    Well, I have asked why should we listen to this mamamamysharona, as how long will he be as the EyesAToldYa?
    We don't have to listen to him, but apparently his people do, and he doesn't like us very much. I watched the speech he made, and he does know how to whip them into a frenzy. Propaganda group think works, but we already knew that, didn't we?

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    Re: E.U. and Iran Announce Framework for Nuclear Deal

    Quote Originally Posted by polgara View Post
    We don't have to listen to him, but apparently his people do, and he doesn't like us very much. I watched the speech he made, and he does know how to whip them into a frenzy. Propaganda group think works, but we already knew that, didn't we?
    Yep.....we did. Its like a framework understanding, huh.

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